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well i think the discussion u guys had in this thread was quite a fun ;D .. i think there should be some entertainment like this after some time ..
;D

??? :-[

if he doesn't want to share his source code then it's ok.

he can share his knowledge anothe way.

But i would really appreciate the source code.

And as for reformatting a hard drive, last time i did it, it took about 1 and a half hours (i got a big hard drive) So i think you'd notice if your hard drive was being erased, unless there is a quicker way to reformat??

Anyway, Please Paul if you could post your source code.
Your OS is great, but if you don't want to post it, it's ok.

Keep up the great work
Cya.

Berserk wrote:
And as for reformatting a hard drive, last time i did it, it took about 1 and a half hours (i got a big hard drive) So i think you'd notice if your hard drive was being erased, unless there is a quicker way to reformat??

it's enough to wipe out partition table and its copies to do harmful damage to a system ... if you want to be even more nasty, also look for FAT partition and wipe out their FATs (+copies) and root directory ... even Norton tools will hardly recover your system ...

now, i don't say this to promote system destructions, but rather to teach you what is to be backup'd before you start playing with hard drives ...

reformatting your HD wouldn't take 1hr! Unless...you reformat that with disk checking enabled

It takes 30 seconds with a 40GB hd for me

Wow, I can't believe all that has gone on in here since I last checked...

Yes, I was away... On a business trip.

I have no problem sharing my source... I've been away from it for a while but I was planning on getting back in and cleaning it up a bit. After I do that, I will upload it to this forum. It has new features, by the way.

Ozguxxx: I don't understand why you were so upset.... If you don't trust a binary, just don't use it. But how is having the source going to help with your skepticism? Someone could give you source code that reformats your hard drive and, if it was a very LONG program, you probably wouldn't catch it anyway cause it was too much to look through. As for a binary, you could just disassamble it (it was written almost entirely in assembly anyway -- just a little C).
But I will upload the source shortly. You will need NASM and DJGPP to compile it.

Please don't worry about what this binary could do to your computer. It does have IDE hard drive support in it but it is set to only READ from your (primary master) hard drive (if you choose to run the little hard drive sector viewer utility in it.)

On a seperate note: I was wondering what everyone out there plans to do with their operating system. I'm realizing how many different kinds of hardware are out there and that no one person is going to be able to make their O/S work with even a fraction of the computers out there. Because not many things are standardized, our O/S's are going to be very limited.

The only things you CAN count on are:

Video hardware having VESA support so video is no problem.

A serial or PS/2 mouse. (not USB)

The keyboard.

Floppy drive support

IDE Hard drive support (CD ROM support??)

Enumerating the PCI devices but you can't use any of them without specific drivers.

Modem access if they have a standard serial modem (no Win Modem.)

You can send plain ASCII to a printer if it is a normal LPT port printer.

Sound USED to be standard (SB16 was always at 0x220). Hardly any sound cards work this way anymore.


So, you CAN'T do this:

Access network cards (no Internet!)

Access USB devices (maybe the mouse could be done)

Probably can't have sound!

No SCSI drives!

Can't access any other specific hardware

I'll find a way.

And i'll be waiting for the source ;D I really want to see it ;D

Cya

Tom wrote:
I'm would like a 100% working OS that will not crash...and more reasons and more...

FritzOS

I would too but I wouldn't even be able so much as play an MP3 or browse the Internet with my OS. I could possibly make a sound and ethernet driver for MY computer but it won't work on other people's computers. And even that would be very difficult.

you could use atheos's internet drivers i'm probly going to do that

Would love to see source! Would love to share source... But no compiler or debugger so if someone would be willing to debug my code than when i write it i will upload it...

Where is the Source Code mate??

I want to see it.....please ;D

Can we please drop the source code requests? Paul will release source code either when he is ready, or never.

Sorry, i was just asking ;D