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I should have posted this earlier anyway better late than never.
Proves you can't trust anything these days.
http://baejaar.blogspot.com/2005/05/firefox-vulnerability.html

I personally don't care that much, it's really only a problem if you go to dodgy websites. I use Firefox because of tabs, themeing and extensions not because I fell for the "we are more secure" (Open Source has never magically made anything more secure, the only place it really helps is with cryptography).

But then again, you are still better off with Firefox/Opera then MSIE since at least the vunerabilities get fixed where MS won't bother until an exploit becomes widespread.

AR wrote: I personally don't care that much, it's really only a problem if you go to dodgy websites.

How are we supposed to get our daily dosage of h0t p0rn if we can't trust our web browsers.

With a condom over your ethernet...or binoculars.

mystran wrote:

AR wrote: I personally don't care that much, it's really only a problem if you go to dodgy websites.

How are we supposed to get our daily dosage of h0t p0rn if we can't trust our web browsers.

Try getting a girlfriend. That's imo the best source of very hot imagery

I've been thinking about that, but I already live with one, and contrary to her claims, I believe she would be offended if I brought another one home.

AR wrote: I personally don't care that much, it's really only a problem if you go to dodgy websites. I use Firefox because of tabs, themeing and extensions not because I fell for the "we are more secure" (Open Source has never magically made anything more secure, the only place it really helps is with cryptography).

But then again, you are still better off with Firefox/Opera then MSIE since at least the vunerabilities get fixed where MS won't bother until an exploit becomes widespread.

That's the thing, all browsers have holes in them, because their written by human beings. It's just that firefox's ones are patched much quicker.

srg

Here's the real article from which I got the news that I wanted to post. (don't know how I mixed them up )
http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/business/columnists.nsf/techtalk/story/321956796A4870C086256F1000655278?OpenDocument

Im guessing that the majority of MT users use firefox. Most of you probably also have the GoogleBar, given that the Google thingie in the firefox window is crapola if you want to image search or news search or highlight etc. But have you noticed that the firefox GoogleBar is crapola? It looks cr*ppy , and it doesnt work terribly well, thats the reason that I don't use FIrefox, and have stayed with IE. I also don't think that firefox is anymore secure, given that after using firefox and doing my *almost* daily Spybot scan I get the same amount of Spy/mal/adware as I would using IE. I'm sticking with IE mainly because of its' eye-candy interface. I know I probably stand alon, but is anyone remotely with me??

Firefox is awesome . If I use internet explorer, I end up with about seven windows at a time, and it gets really hard to navigate between them. Thats why i love tabbed browsing!! also, I never use the google toolbar in ie for anything except plain google web searches, so the search box in firefox is fine for me... Also, its awesome how it can use different engines.... And also firefox blocks pop-ups, so I don't need the google toolbar to do that. The only time that I ever use IE is when a webpage will only be viewed in it.

-Stephen

Try the built in find tool > Ctrl-F it supports jumping and highlighting.

Internet Explorer is crap on the inside, partial CSS (v1) support (The standards are up to CSS3), no support for transparent PNGs or flash movies, various proprietary hacks that aren't compatible with the standards.

Maybe you should stop going to dodgy sites and running untrustworthy software then, using my common sense I've been spyware/malware/virus free for years and I don't even have a permanent virus scanner installed (I scan it occasionally to be sure)

AR wrote: Try the built in find tool > Ctrl-F it supports jumping and highlighting.

It also works when you press "/", making it very equivalent with the vi or less interface. That's user friendly .

Maybe you should stop going to dodgy sites and running untrustworthy software then, using my common sense I've been spyware/malware/virus free for years and I don't even have a permanent virus scanner installed (I scan it occasionally to be sure)

100% agree. If you're going to do something stupid you're going to do it anyway, there's no program or protection feature that can prevent that. If you're not going to do something stupid, programs can change that.

If I use IE, I get infected with some very weird spyware and mywebsearch.com and stuff like that. If I use FF, I don't get that. When you use IE, you get infected. When you use FF, you also get infected.

It might just be your surfing behaviour that's causing it.

I don't really trust any of the browsers, so I really look at how comfortable it is to use the browser. Actually, I use IE, with ActiveX and scripting turned off. Should I need them, I'll make sure the site is safe, and add it to the trusted site list. This system is foolproof, and my regular HD scans never show anything. Keeps pop-ups from appearing, as well. What more, IE loads up a bit faster than Firefox - not that these few seconds really counted.
In my (non-aggressive) opinion, tabs are as good as the taskbar - and currently I have far more than 7 IE windows opened.
Google toolbar is available for IE as well, however, since I can access Google with two clicks anyway (be it Favorites or my list with links to sites I use more commonly IE opens by default).
My ?0.02 or 0,02 EEK, which I use more often until Estonia reaches the criterias needed for replacing them with euros.

Three things I like about Firefox:

- Find is not a dialog!
- Bookmarks are (almost) HTML so they can be perlized to a publishable format. Poor mans roaming profile. Includes icons.
- Ctrl-Q is NOT a shortcut for "Quit". In fact it doesn't do anything.

I also like a few extensions (adblock and some such) but those could be written for any decent browser.

Btw, I almost never switch between tabs. The two actions I do is open-a-hundred-tabs (middleclick on every interesting link in a linklist, tabs open in the backgronu), and then read them using ctrl-w to close already ready tabs, which also gives me the next one. More rarely I also ctrl-tab to the next tab, so that I can check back later.

Top-level windows don't work for the purpose, because other windows get in between, and the stacking-style tab-ordering, while superior for switching between applications (=tasks) is not really good for browsing web in the way I do.

In fact, I could probably live without a back-button these days. I think I use it only a few times a day.

mystran wrote: Btw, I almost never switch between tabs. The two actions I do is open-a-hundred-tabs (middleclick on every interesting link in a linklist, tabs open in the backgronu), and then read them using ctrl-w to close already ready tabs, which also gives me the next one. More rarely I also ctrl-tab to the next tab, so that I can check back later.

Same here, without the tabs. I switch between the pages only when I need to get more information about something on the current page (for example, checking words in an (online) dictionary).