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Useful virii/worms

Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2003 2:58 pm
by Andrew_Baker
Ah, finally proof that virii and worms can have a function other than messing up people's computers:

http://slashdot.org/articles/03/08/18/1 ... 90&tid=201

Re:Useful virii/worms

Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2003 3:42 pm
by anubis
I heard of a japanese comp. scientist do something more like having viruses that could do things like defragmenting the hard disk and the likes.

The aims of the project done are something high like creating self mutating versions of these "good" viruses, that could self download patches and updates and so on.

Re:Useful virii/worms

Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2003 3:46 pm
by rwfromxenon
Wow... :o
Is it possible that this worm was written by the author of Blaster?

Anyway, isn't the technical term for virus a hidden program that automates things on your system?

Re:Useful virii/worms

Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2003 5:14 pm
by Eero Ränik
I don't want that my computer started to install patches or to defragment my hard drives without my agreement, and if it would ask the user about it, then it wouldn't be a virus...
Oh, and Windows includes a virus too, it's called Task Scheduler. ;)

Re:Useful virii/worms

Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2003 11:06 pm
by failrate
Oh, yeah, and at home I've got this crazy cron daemon that does all kinds of stuff without asking. I'm considering getting a book of spells to exorcise the daemon.

Re:Useful virii/worms

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2003 12:34 am
by distantvoices
hehe... a task scheduler regarded as a virus... then, in my homebrew os (no, no beer) there are more than one of those virii. ]:->

cron is ok.

Re:Useful virii/worms

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2003 3:14 am
by Ozguxxx
Ive heard of people using trojan horses for good purposes, for reaching home computers form office, etc. But as long as I do not write it I would not do sth like this.

Re:Useful virii/worms

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2003 3:52 am
by Eero Ränik
hehe... a task scheduler regarded as a virus... then, in my homebrew os (no, no beer) there are more than one of those virii. ]:->
Actually, I don't think that task schedulers are viruses, I did a little joke about words
Anyway, isn't the technical term for virus a hidden program that automates things on your system?
Ive heard of people using trojan horses for good purposes, for reaching home computers form office, etc. But as long as I do not write it I would not do sth like this.
And most of these trojan horses can be used by others to access your data in home, as long as they have access to your hard drive in work, which isn't so unusual in offices...

Re:Useful virii/worms

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2003 7:59 pm
by Andrew_Baker
In similar news, MS will be shipping Windows soon with an automatic updater... so a worm that does the same job suddenly lacks nearly as much villainy as a component build into the OS.

Anyway, this worm wasn't just an automatic task scheduler, as it wasn't intended to work on just one machine. To whit, it was intended to propagate an exploit fix across all networked systems by using the very exploit that it... uh... exploited. That is, it was kind of like that sealant that you pour into your radiator that saturates the holes in the radiator, and then gums up, filling those same holes. Honestly, it's a pretty cool hack, although it could be used for villainy. Of course, since worms and virii are already used for evil purposes, people can't argue that the technology can be misappropriated, as its very misappropriation is to turn it into a tool for good.

Besides, without something sneaky like this, I can imagine how few people would have ever realized they had such a vulnerability nor been able to properly fix it themselves.

Re:Useful virii/worms

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2003 11:28 pm
by Schol-R-LEA
Might I suggest that this be renamed the Morgaine worm? ;)

Or perhaps the class of worms could be called 'Changeling' worms, with individual ones given names like Ivrel, Shiuan, etc.

Re:Useful virii/worms

Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2003 12:38 am
by Andrew_Baker
Ha! I guess all of those security patch downloads are actually causing huge network slowdowns. The designer should have implemented some kind of distributed download or something to ensure that all of the modified worm copies didn't try to download the patch all at once.

http://slashdot.org/articles/03/08/20/0 ... 187&tid=95

Re:Useful virii/worms

Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2003 1:15 pm
by anubis
Worm Vs Worm.

Terminator 3 is slowly becoming true. :)

Re:Useful virii/worms

Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2003 5:37 pm
by Tim
Andrew_Baker wrote:In similar news, MS will be shipping Windows soon with an automatic updater...
Windows has had automatic updates since Windows 2000 SP3.

Re:Useful virii/worms

Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2003 10:28 pm
by Andrew_Baker
Yeah, but the new updater won't even ask if you want to update.