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Israeli censorship

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 6:30 am
by Muazzam
"The reason I quit my BBC show; got strict orders not to mention Israel in any context. This kind of censorship leads to #Gaza horror." (https://twitter.com/maxkeiser)

Re: Israeli censorship

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 7:04 am
by Solar
And this belongs on OSDev.org, because...?

Re: Israeli censorship

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 7:11 am
by Muazzam
Solar wrote:And this belongs on OSDev.org, because...?
Majority of them are Westerners, after all. (At least their leaders and policy makers are) strongly commited to slamming down every single bit of criticism of Israel.

Also, it's the "general rambling" section. You'll find every kind of discussion here. Like this: http://forum.osdev.org/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=18002

Re: Israeli censorship

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 7:17 am
by Muazzam
And today's the US Election, so I hope to convince even a single person not to vote for Hillary.

Re: Israeli censorship

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 7:23 am
by Kevin
Now it starts to make sense. Conspiracy theories and supporting Trump, that fits.

Re: Israeli censorship

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 7:47 am
by Brendan
Hi,
Kevin wrote:Now it starts to make sense. Conspiracy theories and supporting Trump, that fits.
Conspiracy theories, genetic defects caused by incest, and supporting Trump. It's a trifecta. :roll:


Cheers,

Brendan

Re: Israeli censorship

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 8:01 am
by iansjack
Muazzam wrote:And today's the US Election, so I hope to convince even a single person not to vote for Hillary.
I'm sure that all over America people are changing their vote having read your words of wisdom.

Good luck to Pakistan if there's a Trump presidency; they'll certainly need it.

Re: Israeli censorship

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:35 am
by Rusky
Hah, the idea that Trump would somehow not be worse than Clinton for any country or human in that part of the world is ludicrous.

Re: Israeli censorship

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2016 12:10 am
by Muazzam
Hillary has vowed to "put Israel first" so it's relevant here. But so does Trump.

Why did you assume that I supported Trump? Americans need a 3rd party candidate, Jill Stein for example. I'm not sure whether my message will reach >10 Americans but I've decided to post nonetheless.

Re: Israeli censorship

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2016 3:02 am
by Kevin
Muazzam wrote:Hillary has vowed to "put Israel first" so it's relevant here. But so does Trump.
Even if so, how is this "slamming down every single bit of criticism of Israel"? This statement is showing support, not suppressing criticism.
Americans need a 3rd party candidate, Jill Stein for example.
The American electoral system isn't designed for a third party to have any chance. If you wanted someone other than Clinton or Trump, that ship had already sailed after the primaries.

I wonder if Sanders could have won. I think polls suggested so then.

Re: Israeli censorship

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2016 3:27 am
by Muazzam
Kevin wrote:
Muazzam wrote:Hillary has vowed to "put Israel first" so it's relevant here. But so does Trump.
Even if so, how is this "slamming down every single bit of criticism of Israel"? This statement is showing support, not suppressing criticism.
Americans need a 3rd party candidate, Jill Stein for example.
The American electoral system isn't designed for a third party to have any chance. If you wanted someone other than Clinton or Trump, that ship had already sailed after the primaries.

I wonder if Sanders could have won. I think polls suggested so then.
American election wasn't the primary reason for this thread, Israel was.

Re: Israeli censorship

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2016 4:46 am
by Solar
Muazzam wrote:American election wasn't the primary reason for this thread, Israel was.
It's more about sprinkling a forum completely unrelated to politics with some agenda-pushing flamebait.

Re: Israeli censorship

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2016 5:06 am
by Kevin
Muazzam wrote:American election wasn't the primary reason for this thread, Israel was.
Yeah, I don't think you have shown how the majority of us (the "Westerners" in the osdev.org community) is "strongly commited to slamming down every single bit of criticism of Israel" - because I'm sure it's simply not true - so there is little to discuss here. If you make bullshit claims and ascribe positions to people that they don't actually hold, you might not get out of the thread what you expected.

Also, just as a hint: When an employer tells you not to mention Israel (neither positively nor negatively, so even in this case it doesn't seem to be one-sided as you suggest) in what you say in their name, that's not censorship, but just their right. It would be censorship if you couldn't express your opinion in your own name, but since that tweet exists, that's obviously not the case.

Re: Israeli censorship

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2016 5:44 am
by Muazzam
Solar wrote: It's more about sprinkling a forum completely unrelated to politics with some agenda-pushing flamebait.
I tried advocating Palestinian cause on Twitter, no one even noticed I existed.
I tried on Quora, got banned permanently. Created three more accounts, they got banned, too.
On Facebook, I got one month ban.

They all are controlled. (Or brainwashed. Or both.)

So this forum was perhaps the only hope for me. I trust this forum.

This thread is getting nowhere. Another pointless thread perhaps I'm too stupid to realize. Moderators should delete this thread.

Re: Israeli censorship

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2016 6:05 am
by iansjack
So perhaps it's time you found another forum to peddle your views on. It seems that no-one here wants to hear them either.