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xcode IDE ?
Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 1:28 am
by Sam111
I am wondering since mac is BSD based do they have a port or version of the IDE xcode out that runs on a BSD or linux flavor.
Like either OpenBSD or FreeBSD or Ubuntu
It would be nice if there was a version for other linux/unix distro's out their.
I am wondering is it possible with easy or is their alot of mac OS specific libraries / code it is tied to.
So for example would it be to tied down to OS specific code and the best you could hope for is some emulator / wine type of thing.
Or is their hope for a straight conversion ?
I am assuming it would be easier to convert xcode to linux then it would be to convert visual studio's to linux only because mac is Unix based to begin with. But this still could be a stretch?
Curious if anybody has more info on the internals of how tied down to mac specific things for xcode.
Thanks for any info.
Re: xcode IDE ?
Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 2:20 am
by Combuster
Re: xcode IDE ?
Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 2:29 am
by Solar
@Sam111:
It would be very helpful if you could ask an actual question in your posts. I always get the impression of someone mumbling to himself about a subject:
"Would be nice to have a muffin. I wonder if they sell any at the store? You know, those fluffy chocolate ones. Or perhaps vanilla, I like those too. Mum always made me muffins. Does anyone else like muffins? Or is it just me? Perhaps someone will point me to a muffin place..."
As compared to:
"Can anyone tell me where I could buy a muffin? Chocolate preferred, but vanilla would be OK."
As Combuster pointed out, googling "muffin store" first would also help.
Re: xcode IDE ?
Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 6:02 am
by Yoda
@Combuster
Wikipedia wrote:When evaluating whether it is acceptable to express sentiments like RTFM, one must consider the trade-off between maintaining the usability of a forum for its existing users, and making a forum welcoming to newcomers. ... frequent users of RTFM or GIYF responses are simply expressing elitism, stroking a personality flaw such as a need to tear others down to seek self-esteem. Their time could better be spent adding the question and answer to an FAQ, pointing the user to a helpful website, or simply not responding. This is especially true when, for example, it is not even clear which "manual" the receiver of the RTFM response should be reading. One of the most frequent criticisms of the open source community is lack of friendly support for newcomers. The Ubuntu Forums and LinuxQuestions.org, for instance, have instituted "no RTFM" policies to promote a welcoming atmosphere.
RTFM [and] "Go look on google" are two inappropriate responses to a question. If you don't know the answer or don't wish to help, please say nothing instead of brushing off someone's question. Politely showing someone how you searched or obtained the answer to a question is acceptable, even encouraged.
...
If you wish to remind a user to use search tools or other resources when they have asked a question you feel is basic or common, please be very polite. Any replies for help that contain language disrespectful towards the user asking the question, i.e. "STFU" or "RTFM" are unacceptable and will not be tolerated.
The same concerns LMGTFY and STFW. I think that this forum indeed lacks friendliness and hospitality, as
rdos mentioned in a proper topic.
Re: xcode IDE ?
Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 6:05 am
by Solar
@ Yoda:
We aren't Wikipedia.
Combuster provided a link to a search result that the OP should have done in the first place, sufficiently answering the question.
You could say that this forum would be less hostile if we would be answering STFW-type questions patiently over and over again. You could also say that this forum would be less hostile if people would be carrying their own weight
and asking questions the smart way.
Eric Raymond wrote:You shouldn't be offended by this; by hacker standards, your respondent is showing you a rough kind of respect simply by not ignoring you. You should instead be thankful for this grandmotherly kindness.
Re: xcode IDE ?
Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 6:17 am
by Yoda
I don't say that it is OK to ask questions before googling. I just appeal to be polite when pointing users to their mistakes and don't say words that bring down user's self-appraisal.
Re: xcode IDE ?
Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 6:20 am
by Solar
I say that anyone doing OSDev should have enough self-esteem to read "F" as "fine" and apply a modicum of self-humor if screwing up at this magnitude (i.e., ignoring common sense as well as
forum rule #1).
Re: xcode IDE ?
Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 12:05 pm
by Sam111
Well , the reason why I am wanting to use xcode on linux is I wanted to do some blackberry app development.
And all the windows IDE or developing stuff for blackberry is all html/xml based or flash based IDE.
It really doesn't let you code in the native developing language.
At least my opinion is that for windows or linux their isn't really good way to develop your blackberry app.
A part from using a third party site and uploading.
Mainly that is why I wanted to know if it is possible to port xcode to linux.
But maybe I am wrong an there is a good way of developing blackberry on windows or linux (non-mac based machines) ?
Re: xcode IDE ?
Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 1:36 pm
by Solar
Lernbefreit auch noch...
LMGTFY,
again.
Re: xcode IDE ?
Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 4:39 pm
by Combuster
berkus wrote:Erm, hopeless...
Nothing new <- any single one of them will do.
Re: xcode IDE ?
Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 5:42 am
by JamesM
I usually try to be as welcoming as possible, but Sam111 just makes me despair.
Re: Avatar
Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 11:19 pm
by CelestialMechanic
Sam111's avatar is stunningly apt, don't you agree?
Re: Avatar
Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 2:21 am
by brain
CelestialMechanic wrote:Sam111's avatar is stunningly apt, don't you agree?
Yes, I can't decide if Sam is really struggling to learn the basics or is just a very smart troll
