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Marketing - I Want Someone To Create A Mascot For My OS, And

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 11:00 pm
by JaMiE P
Hey Everyone Who Reads This,
I need a Mascot for Phelansys OS. He/She should be a furry creature of some kind, and should be cuteish :P.

Also, i need a basic executble filetype that is completly unique. I would prefer if it was similar to the BASIC programming language, but encrypted so that people cannnot read the source of programs. I will tell you the basic syntax and commands if you are interested, and you can work on it from there. Only Me, you & The OS itself will know this number. Not even other staff will know even the tinest portion of it.

I will pay you an amount between $100AU (Around $90 US) and $700 AU (Around $690 US). I can pay in pretty much any method that you request, apart from cheque.

If you are interested, please e-mail me at [email protected]

Thanks,
James Phelan
CEO - Phelansys, Inc.

Re: Marketing - I Want Someone To Create A Mascot For My OS,

Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 11:00 pm
by gmoney
yea i can make a mascot for u for free now the other part u need someone else to do it for you

Re: Marketing - I Want Someone To Create A Mascot For My OS,

Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 11:00 pm
by gmoney
to be honest though u might try a marajauna leaf ;) lol

Re: Marketing - I Want Someone To Create A Mascot For My OS,

Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 11:00 pm
by JaMiE P
Great! Add me at MSN at [email protected]


Thanks

Re: Marketing - I Want Someone To Create A Mascot For My OS,

Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 11:00 pm
by smiddy
I will be a bit surprised if you can find someone willing to work on an executeable-encryption format for the amount of money you are asking. It is my expereience that it takes considerable amount of time to perfect an unique algorythm of (near) safe encryption. And it will take not only a programmer but someone with an extensive math background. Anyone with those qualifications will exhaust $700 AU in less than one day.

But if you aren't considering too secure of a file type...then you get what you pay for.

Re: Marketing - I Want Someone To Create A Mascot For My OS,

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 11:00 pm
by Cjmovie
Do you know what an executable file type is? All it is is a container for flat binary of machine code. That means if you want to run it without building a huge virtual machine with all the opcodes and everything else, you'll have to do it the way windows, linux, everyone else does it - make a container file that holds a binary represention of the program and have data that the program needs.

Machine code is of course what the assembler outputs. You CAN'T make your own machine code. It is the processor that decides it. If you want to just 'jmp' in asm to it, you MUST have binary code of the CPU in memory, not basic! Basic is something that another program must TELL the computer how to run. You have to COMPILE basic into assembly instructions and then into machine code, just like nasm would if you did "-f bin".

Not trying to sound mean, it just sounds rather dumb.

Re: Marketing - I Want Someone To Create A Mascot For My OS,

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 11:00 pm
by Brendan
Hi,

I think what the original poster was after may have been something like Java byte-codes or tokenized BASIC - something where each command is assigned a proprietory encoding and then interpretted (or JIT compiled) by the OS rather than executed directly.

Benefits would include complete portability and (assuming there is no encryption) difficulty disassembling - typically to reverse engineer the format you'd need to write many tiny programs and examine the results, but then you'd need to write a convertor to convert larger programs into something readable.

If you add a layer of encryption to this (even if it is a simple/primitive form of encryption) it can make reverse engineering the resulting programs very difficult.

Another advantage is that it's easier to write an interpretter for debugging purposes, so you can step through the code and examine variables, etc in an intermediate window (much nicer than a core dump)...

I'd be tempted to suggest encryption and a proprietory form of compression (and JIT compiling as interpretters are slow).

Although I'm only guessing - could the original poster be more specific?

BTW - I'd be willing to work on something like this for $800 AU per 80 hour fortnight, as long as I'm listed in the credits (I can provide ABN to minimize government paperwork and wouldn't have problems with an NDA)...


Cheers,

Brendan

Re: Marketing - I Want Someone To Create A Mascot For My OS,

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 11:00 pm
by aggieben
Interesting $$ amounts. At $100 AU, the AU dollar is valued at .9, but at $700 AU, it's worth .98571.

According to xe.com, as of 7/14/2005, $1 AU = $0.751599 US. So...
$75.16 - $526.12. I wouldn't do design work for that amount; forget implementation. A high-quality implementation of what you're asking for would take several hundred man-hours. Even at the lowest pay rates (say 500 hrs @ $10/hr), that would cost thousands of US $s (e.g., US $5000). Highly experienced engineers cost quite a bit more than $10/hr --- probably closer to $100/hr than $10/hr --- which means you'd be talking about $50000 for your filetype (and associated linkers, loaders, compiler modifications, etc, etc, etc, all assuming you'd want it done right, BTW. Anything can be done on the cheap, but you get what you pay for).

As a previous poster said, I'm not being mean here; just trying to give a sense of what real software engineering costs are.

Re: Marketing - I Want Someone To Create A Mascot For My OS,

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 11:00 pm
by mara
Hi,

Am working on a project named BVM (BASIC Virtual Machine), and, It's written in ANSI C.

The project is in his first two weeks (too young), but it seems to be good one. The VM is stack-based, and supports syscalls.

If it seems to be usefull , just contact me!

Cheers!

Re: Marketing - I Want Someone To Create A Mascot For My OS,

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 11:00 pm
by Yushatak
I just hope that you all realize that he said "If interested, please email me at:"... He probably will never return to the forum. He will likely await email, so if you've got something to say, I'd suggest emailing him. >.<