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PC-BSD vs. openSUSE??

Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 4:16 am
by redoktober
hey everyone!
first, if you'd please check out the following link, i'd be grateful!
http://sites.google.com/site/thehackerl ... nux-kernel

now, that's the plan.
but what should i use??
openSUSE, or some other Linux flavor??

also, i've lately heard a lot about PC-BSD.
is it worth it??

Re: PC-BSD vs. openSUSE??

Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 4:58 am
by fronty
PC-BSD is just FreeBSD with some extra packages installed by default, so it is worth it. If you want to get hacking in FreeBSD's kernel, I'd recommend Design and Implementation of the FreeBSD Operating System and The Design and Implementation of the 4.4 BSD Operating System. I also have heard Designing BSD Rootkits is quite good.

Re: PC-BSD vs. openSUSE??

Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 5:10 am
by Solar
*BSD != Linux. While the two kernels share certain characteristics, they are developed independently. Not everything you'll read in a Linux book will apply to the BSD kernel, and vice versa.

And of all the Linux distributions available, SuSE is probably the worst choice possible if you want to learn how Linux works. In SuSE, many things work in a very SuSE way, if you get my drift. Binary distributions easily take it personally when you start hacking the internals, and of them all, SuSE is among the touchiest.

For peeking into the internals of a Linux system, I'd strongly suggest Gentoo. For a desktop, I'd recommend Linux Mint. But there is nothing I would recommend SuSE for.

Re: PC-BSD vs. openSUSE??

Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 5:41 am
by redoktober
@fronty - thanks, man! i think one of the books is at the college library..

@solar - i see what you mean. openSUSE does sometimes act weirdly. now, what would you choose between gentoo and mint?? i used mint about a year back (i think it was mint daryna), and i liked the way things got done without a hassle.

Re: PC-BSD vs. openSUSE??

Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 2:12 pm
by Combuster
As per above sentiments:
Gentoo++;
SuSE >>= 1; :wink:

In fact, gentoo is what made me actually use linux instead of some fancy wizard.

Re: PC-BSD vs. openSUSE??

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 5:30 am
by skwee
Gentoo++

But don't just follow the Handbook, open your mind, be more creative, I would even start with stage1 (for it being more interesting).

Re: PC-BSD vs. openSUSE??

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 7:46 am
by redoktober
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thanks, everybody!

Re: PC-BSD vs. openSUSE??

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 4:43 pm
by KotuxGuy
Solar wrote:*BSD != Linux. While the two kernels share certain characteristics, they are developed independently. Not everything you'll read in a Linux book will apply to the BSD kernel, and vice versa.

And of all the Linux distributions available, SuSE is probably the worst choice possible if you want to learn how Linux works. In SuSE, many things work in a very SuSE way, if you get my drift. Binary distributions easily take it personally when you start hacking the internals, and of them all, SuSE is among the touchiest.

For peeking into the internals of a Linux system, I'd strongly suggest Gentoo. For a desktop, I'd recommend Linux Mint. But there is nothing I would recommend SuSE for.
I have to agree with Solar here; BSD is not Linux.The two OSes have similar origins,but *BSD went to the server rooms,and Linux(mostly) went to the desktop,although both can be used in server and desktop environments.Indeed,some people(possibly some here! :?: ) use *BSD as their desktop OS.

Concerning Solars last sentence, plenty of people use SuSE.Who uses Linux Mint?? Use Ubuntu or Fedora!
Let's not start a distro war,please! :lol:

Re: PC-BSD vs. openSUSE??

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 4:51 pm
by Owen
This thread hasn't been touched since September. Please, read dates; don't necropost.

Re: PC-BSD vs. openSUSE??

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 6:20 pm
by fronty
KotuxGuy wrote:Indeed,some people(possibly some here! :?: ) use *BSD as their desktop OS.
One happy fbsd user, there's at least one who likes to masturbate with hairy friends or uses obsd for some other reason on this forum.
Who uses Linux Mint??
Many people who don't want to mess with Ubuntu for ages to get it better for casual desktop usage.

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<lock?>

Re: PC-BSD vs. openSUSE??

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 7:07 pm
by Brynet-Inc
fronty wrote:
KotuxGuy wrote:Indeed,some people(possibly some here! :?: ) use *BSD as their desktop OS.
One happy fbsd user, there's at least one who likes to masturbate with hairy friends or uses obsd for some other reason on this forum.
Hello.

Re: PC-BSD vs. openSUSE??

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 7:25 pm
by KotuxGuy
fronty wrote:
KotuxGuy wrote:Indeed,some people(possibly some here! :?: ) use *BSD as their desktop OS.
One happy fbsd user, there's at least one who likes to masturbate with hairy friends or uses obsd for some other reason on this forum.
Who uses Linux Mint??
Many people who don't want to mess with Ubuntu for ages to get it better for casual desktop usage.

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<lock?>
Sorry about the Linux Mint quote,a quick check revealed Linux Mint is more popular than Fedora.
<rant>
Ubuntu has Wubi,does Linux Mint have an equivelient?
</rant>
EDIT:
Linux Mint is based on Ubuntu,so i don't really get people using that; although Ubuntu is based on Debian.

Re: PC-BSD vs. openSUSE??

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 7:56 pm
by earlz
Brynet-Inc wrote:
fronty wrote:
KotuxGuy wrote:Indeed,some people(possibly some here! :?: ) use *BSD as their desktop OS.
One happy fbsd user, there's at least one who likes to masturbate with hairy friends or uses obsd for some other reason on this forum.
Hello.
Hi there! OpenBSD++;