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Venom OS developers & support wanted

Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 4:29 pm
by b.zaar
Hi, I'm the developer of venom OS, a small x86 pmode OS hosted on sourceforge http://sourceforge.net/projects/venom-os/

The project is still being worked on but the updates are slow. I've redesigned some of the internals and the updates will appear on sourceforge over the next few months.

Right now I'm looking for interested people for development and support for the following areas.

OS Development -
File system
Memory management
Task management
Security
Shell & utils
User apps

Extra support -
Webpage design
OS and apps testing

The last update was a bug fix snapshot of v0.2.2 which is working and stable but very simple. The idea to reach v0.50 is to have it working in a stable DOS 6.xx like environment. This means a cli, a working filesystem, some simple tools and apps and the basic system services without full security. Eventually v1.0 will include the security and a gui.

I have design ideas for the final project including the cli & gui native language, installation packages, filesystem, tools, apps and libraries.

If there is anyone new to OSDev or someone looking to support a small project in its early stages please contact me thru here or sourceforge.

Thanks,
B.ZaaR

Re: Venom OS developers & support wanted

Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 4:53 pm
by 01000101
I don't have the time (or interest) to participate in a project, but I can provide some pointers on asking for help. :wink:

I'd suggest telling people of the design goals that set your project apart from the rest, think about it, why would anyone join a project that is identical to a thousand other projects? Also, the programming API of the kernel needs to be solid or at least present, that way integrating a new developer doesn't require a hack-job to get a working development environment going.

Re: Venom OS developers & support wanted

Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 5:35 pm
by b.zaar
The design goals of venom is to be a daily use OS with focus on multimedia, gaming, security, stability, ease of use and the ability to highly customise the interface to the users desire. Both CLI and GUI with full OS functionality available in either mode. The system API and device drivers (kernel system) run the PC while the interface is seperate so any configuration can be used on top when the kernel is stable.

The basic system API is present with the option to expand on driver API (part of the design, not just an undefined driver API). Some POSIX compatibility but this is not a unix clone.

This is working towards v3.0 not a start up idea without some fundamental code. The internal structure is very simple atm and hopefully can stay that way even when security features are added later.

Re: Venom OS developers & support wanted

Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 8:31 pm
by whowhatwhere
b.zaar wrote:The design goals of venom is to be a daily use OS with focus on multimedia, gaming, security, stability, ease of use and the ability to highly customise the interface to the users desire. Both CLI and GUI with full OS functionality available in either mode. The system API and device drivers (kernel system) run the PC while the interface is seperate so any configuration can be used on top when the kernel is stable.

The basic system API is present with the option to expand on driver API (part of the design, not just an undefined driver API). Some POSIX compatibility but this is not a unix clone.

This is working towards v3.0 not a start up idea without some fundamental code. The internal structure is very simple atm and hopefully can stay that way even when security features are added later.
*imagines Lua userspace in one gigantic script file*

Re: Venom OS developers & support wanted

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 11:17 am
by Creature
I have another tip for you: stay away from SourceForge unless you're really planning on creating a site. Google Code is so much more convenient for other people wanting to join your project. Not that SourceForge is bad but it's just so slow...

Re: Venom OS developers & support wanted

Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 8:03 am
by imate900
No replies in a while, eh?

I will help... but I don't have a sourceforge account.

Re: Venom OS developers & support wanted

Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 11:10 am
by lcowles
hi, I like Venom, very nice look and feel, very retro, I have a stable computer and heaps of commercial webdev and general dev experience, I'm spread a little thin with projects at the moment but I can take on some of the roles if you can recognise it wont be my primary project, I have a googlemail for contact right now if you want to discuss this privately PM me and we'll see what I can do + I'm also working on my own OS

Re: Venom OS developers & support wanted

Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 7:40 pm
by b.zaar
Hi, quick update... yes venom is still looking for developers.

At the moment Im designing a filesystem. It uses allocation groups, bitmaps, extents and B+ trees and comes in 16, 32 & 64 bit formats. Eventually it will support compressed folders, extended attributes and journaling but these are not yet in the base specification.

If anyone is interested in helping with this side of things I'll have a new mkimage tool available soon.
Also a new boot loader and 2nd stage boot loader will need to be written. I would like to make the 2nd stage boot loader use multiboot configurations and have the kernel use them so that grub can also be used to load the kernel.

This is the current focus for v0.3.0

Re: Venom OS developers & support wanted

Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 8:07 pm
by clange
Hi

I just tested. It crashes in Qemu with a reported double fault. It works in Bochs. I couldn't easily crash it.

clange