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64 bit vista
Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 12:07 am
by VolTeK
i was just at best buy today and i found a pc with a big monitor (the new ones look cool but cost to much, they just look nice thats all) and it was a gateway. i checked the system infomation and it had 8gb of ram! 8 gb i was amazed, i did not know they made it to do that. i was then told by a person who works there that it could run with 32 gb of ram (not that the motherboard could hold unless any one came out with chips that held 8 gb of ram each, sounds expensive!) i ten thought to my self, i would ot have to upgrade for another decade untill my system started to lag again, then again its vista, services alone use alot of memory and a game that ran 2gb of ram on xp, but on vista its probably ornearly twice as much. and what i dont know why is when the system has 4gb services and the system alone is using 1.36gb of ram, but 512mb (pitiful i know its what i have) it will use 200 to 300 with out anything runing (bare services) i would like to know what that is but i am sure someone on yahoo answers has that covered, im not a vista person i may just go with windows 64 bit and if i dont like vista i will not like windows 7, notcie how you need vista for it to install on
its using vista structure or is very similar to vista and i have not tried but i know it will have problems, no matter how small the os is. anyway, my point is, im amazed that we already hae systems running with that much power. i dont want to start a war over the best os and who hates it, if that happens i ask that this topic is locked. what you have running is what you like because its still on your system. has anyone gotten a system with this os, if so have you had any bad problems and how fast is everything now that you got it?
Re: 64 bit vista
Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 1:20 am
by 01000101
I dual-boot on my machine. I have Ubuntu 8.10 and Vista x64 on the drive. I personally have never had any serious issues with Vista x64 (except when it first came out and was lacking in driver support). It doesn't lag, it doesn't crash/BSOD/freeze, it's not too much more of a resource hog than XP was so all in all, it's a good OS. I game on Vista and program on Ubuntu.
The machine running Vista x64 and Ubuntu x64 is a dual quad-core system with 8 gigs of mem (with room for another 8 of the same 2gb sticks), and everything is detected on both and neither OS's have given me real issues. If anything, I'd say (no flaming intended) that Vista x64 is more responsive on this system, but I don't have hard evidence to support that besides my eyes lol. For a while I also ran Server 2008 (beta testing) and it worked flawlessly and managed the systems resources nicely.
I'd assume the base services that are consuming the resources are things like svchost (all 538201 of them lol), explorer (and the GUI in general), UAC, indexing and the like.
I haven't looked into Windows 7 but I'm sure I'll like its eye-candy.
Re: 64 bit vista
Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 3:28 am
by VolTeK
im glad it works for you, assuming never is good, all of the bad things i said i got or heard from friends or people who have used it, i have never tried it because of that. i would like to use it though becasue 64 bit for vista is like gold compared to windows ram. i ddi not know that svchost had that many resources
. windows is a very good gaming machine, i tried getting ubuntu because many people say its great for software developers but..... ever time i got it, i came back with a half inturrupted download and a window saying
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| Internet Explorer |X|
|-----------------------------
| Operation Aborted |
| There Goes Half Your Day |
| of this download |
|----------------------------|
so i stopped after the 4th time i saw the message
windows seven if more a vista only with a new mini kernel and work under the hood.
not bad but itsstill vista, if i had vista i would just keep with it. but like i said im glad yu have had no problems, it would be a waste on a great system if that were to happen
. i thought 4 gb was amazing, but now 8 gb, wow
!
so now i am stuck with a vista and xp system (so many transfomation packs, if my os had a gun it would shot me in the middle of a program on visual studio. but i will take your word for it, my only problem if my favorite start, run, i:\, enter. i had trouble on my friend cpu, every time his ram filled up and the system froze, it took it the wrong way i guess and crashed. thats why i first did not like vista, but hey if you are not haveing problems, maybe on my next system i will not replace it with windows
btw not to be ot with my own post but, i saw a 25 dollar 24" monitor on ebay and it said it worked, if i bought it would it be worth it?
Re: 64 bit vista
Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 2:46 am
by AJ
Hi,
Remember that a lot of the memory consumption on a 4GB system will be down to superfetch. Have a look at
this article which explains it nicely.
It seems like the download problem may be more of a connection issue. In the old days of dialup, some providers used to reset your connection after a couple of hours. I didn't think anyone did that nowadays, but it's worth looking at your ISP contract. Have you considered using a resumable download manager?
Cheers,
Adam
Re: 64 bit vista
Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 7:55 pm
by VolTeK
AJ wrote:Hi,
It seems like the download problem may be more of a connection issue. In the old days of dialup, some providers used to reset your connection after a couple of hours. I didn't think anyone did that nowadays, but it's worth looking at your ISP contract. Have you considered using a resumable download manager?
Cheers,
Adam
sorry, but why are we talking about that?
Re: 64 bit vista
Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 3:51 am
by Combuster
If your span of attention doesn't even allow you to recall what
you wrote
previously...
I'll say it again: you show absolutely no sign of having the needed skills. You don't take advice, you have very poor memory (and this isn't the first time), you can't check yourself, you can't solve your own problems. It's like a monkey who wants to become a brain surgeon: while ambition can get you a long way, there are some things that are simply out of your reach.
Re: 64 bit vista
Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 6:33 am
by Love4Boobies
He's talking about your failed download...
Re: 64 bit vista
Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 3:58 pm
by VolTeK
yeah i may need a download manager, but i figgure i should just move the mouse every once in a while for it to detect action.
Combuster:
got anymore insults? maybe you will change when i get my os done, then the monkey will have created something,last time i checked, monkeys cant do that.
Re: 64 bit vista
Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 4:02 pm
by Love4Boobies
GhostXoPCorp wrote:Combuster:
got anymore? maybe you wil change when i get my os done, then the monkey will have created something,last time i checked, monkeys cant do that.
Well stop posting nonsense and show us something already
Re: 64 bit vista
Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 5:24 pm
by VolTeK
its my first and i want it to make a good immpression so i have to make it as good as i can. give 2 more months, then you will see, i need to know how every bit of fat16 12 and 32 works, read and write. so when i get thatand tui done, you will see how much i have learned, then you guys will know that i have been listening this whole time. not ask then leave.
Re: 64 bit vista
Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 4:02 am
by Combuster
Last time I checked your OS was due past week
got anymore insults?
Those are observations. If those offend you, that's your problem. But maybe I should publicate half my inbox (yes you pmed me that often) if only to show the rest where you earned those comments.
Re: 64 bit vista
Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 3:10 am
by VolTeK
next time i checked, it was a month and a half from now. one minute you think you have it done, and then the next you are missing many needed things. fortunatly those things i needed fixing will take a while and im thinking about reconstruction. im only on here for a bit then i will see you guys in another month and a half.