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Hi,

I want to learn ASM, i've been bussy for three months now but I have problems to learn it, it isn't that hard in the tutorials but for writing a own bootloader, or even a simple program is very hard.

I have experience in writing C, Perl, C++ and some other languages for five years now. Can someone give me a place to start again with ASM so that I understand what I'm doing?

Thank you

Marc

Wikipedia: Assembly language / External links (should have found this by yourself). Art of Assembly, it's where I learned ASM from.

Solar wrote:Wikipedia: Assembly language / External links (should have found this by yourself). Art of Assembly, it's where I learned ASM from.

Thank you, I've found out wikipedia, the second url looks very promissing! Thank you, I'll take a look when I'm done with work

After you're done with the basics I suggest downloading the IA-32 & Intel 64 manual vol. 2A & 2B for the full instruction set. Also, you might want to take a look at Michael Abrash's work on optimization here http://www.gamedev.net/reference/articl ... le1698.asp. His book also covers graphics, which you might be interested in or not, but it's great for optimized assembly.

Love4Boobies wrote:After you're done with the basics I suggest downloading the IA-32 & Intel 64 manual vol. 2A & 2B for the full instruction set.

actually, i dont recommend that (well, you can, but only for temperary)

instead, you can order the physical books, which are (imho) much easier to use and reference -- for general purpose assembly, you should get volume 1 (which gives all the basic information about the CPU, which can be important for asm programming) as well as voumes 2a & 2b

if you are using this for OSdev, you should also get volumes 3a & 3b

intel will ship all these books to you, anywhere in the world, completely free (including shipping) on request

there is a link in my signature to where you can download and order them

Adams ASM tut is what i started with.
http://www.programmersheaven.com/downlo ... nload.aspx

instead, you can order the physical books, which are (imho) much easier to use and reference

Yes, it might be easier to use physical books but the printed versions are always behind with updates. Currently, they have version 27 on for download and 25 for ordering.

Love4Boobies wrote:

instead, you can order the physical books, which are (imho) much easier to use and reference

Yes, it might be easier to use physical books but the printed versions are always behind with updates. Currently, they have version 27 on for download and 25 for ordering.

That was my problem to, alway's outdated well I've found a good starting tutorial thanks to Dex, any more tips are always welcome!

Thank you!

Love4Boobies wrote:

instead, you can order the physical books, which are (imho) much easier to use and reference

Yes, it might be easier to use physical books but the printed versions are always behind with updates. Currently, they have version 27 on for download and 25 for ordering.

yes... but do you know the difference between those versions?

most likely (not sure, my versions are revision 19) the only differences are a few spelling errors and grammer corrections/clarifications -- not really that important

the reason they are "behind" is because intel doesnt print new books every time they make a minor correction - but major changes are always published in the print books very quickly (when there are important changes, they refuse to ship the books until the newer ones are ready)

Beker,

You might find MikeOS useful: http://mikeos.berlios.de

See the Handbook for a section on basic assembly language programming, and a tutorial on writing your own code in a boot block. Also see the MikeOS source code for an example (commented) bootloader that loads a file from a FAT12-formatted floppy disk.

It's quite simple and doesn't cover 'big' OS features like protected mode and multitasking, but it should get you started. Join the mailing list if you need any help!

M

M-Saunders wrote:Beker,

You might find MikeOS useful: http://mikeos.berlios.de

See the Handbook for a section on basic assembly language programming, and a tutorial on writing your own code in a boot block. Also see the MikeOS source code for an example (commented) bootloader that loads a file from a FAT12-formatted floppy disk.

It's quite simple and doesn't cover 'big' OS features like protected mode and multitasking, but it should get you started. Join the mailing list if you need any help!

M

Thank you, Ive learnd allot from that link you gave me, it is becomming clear now!

Hi,
An easy way to learn assembly in a quick time is to use the good ol Debug provided with windows and see the effect of the instructions in real time .

Regards
Sandeep