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Ubuntu linux vs. Window Vista - they both suck!
Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 12:04 pm
by zaleschiemilgabriel
My main OS is Windows XP, but sometimes I like trying the alternatives... Lately I've been going back and forth between Ubuntu and Vista, but I'm getting nowhere! That is to say, they both suck! Well, maybe Vista a bit more than Ubuntu.
The thing I hate most about them is the new "Aero" and "Compiz" additions. While I could disable them, I'll always know they are there and if anyone comes over, I've got to show off. But other than that, the performance of these interfaces is way down. A simple thing like pressing Alt-Tab became the long wait for pretty animated graphics.
Both of these OS's are supposed to take advantage of all the new hardware I've got, like the HPET. I would've assumed that an OS using such an advanced timer would have much better uses for it than animating stuff. Just think of all the things you could do if you replaced the PIT with HPET.
For an OS that has all the advantages of hardware acceleration, Vista is pretty dumb, and Ubuntu is not far from it. Maybe someone here will develop something that's decent one day, so we don't have to put up with this crap anymore...
...Just in case anyone was lacking motivation.
Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 12:05 pm
by inflater
Are you starting a flamewar between Windows and Linux again?
yeah... i've done them twice formerly
Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 12:18 pm
by JamesM
Hang on, I've got something in here somewhere...
*rummages in his rucksack*
... AH HA! Have at you!
Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 12:24 pm
by 01000101
lmao @ JamesM's post.
as useless as my post is, I leave knowing I did not indulge in the flaming. =)
Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 12:41 pm
by piranha
Well, to respond to the compiz thing....
I notice no speed difference in my computer when I turn all the features on.
But, maybe thats because my computer runs insanely fast with great hardware, idk.
-JL
Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 1:00 pm
by AaronMiller
It always bothers me when someone likes to say something about Vista - surprisingly Ubuntu too.
To be honest, I don't like the Gnome windowing system Ubuntu uses. It makes the computer feel slow with all the adjustments it does. Plus Ubuntu is pretty dumb when it comes to selecting a video mode. My crappy video card doesn't support 1280x1024 via VESA which is seemingly what Ubuntu is trying to startup (Or perhaps something higher). While Windows will search for the proper video resolution.
Keep in mind, Vista is designed to be used with the new DirectX 10 cards (At least a "mid-level" one). So the problem with using those 'pretty' features may be simply just your video card.
Look, Vista made it so you can get better hardware for cheaper. A year ago it would've cost me $700 to get a 1gb RAM 2.0GHz 60gb hd laptop. For that same $700 now (Now that Vista's been released) I get 2gb-3gb RAM 2.4GHz 100~gb hd laptop with Vista Home Premium. Vista needs a good amount of RAM to function fine (512 mb which isn't a problem for my computer which only has 1gb). I've noticed no problems with Vista on my computer. One bug here and there but they were all fixed and it runs smoothly.
You don't need to show off anything, use your computer as you wish - it's not difficult.
Cheers,
-naota
Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 4:17 pm
by binutils
everytime when i see the "vista", i am getting obssess to link vixta, dont know why. :?)
so drop the link here.
http://vixta.org
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PS: i use fedora 8, LFS64, winxp sp2, if grub works fine with pure-64 gcc, i will run 2-LFS64
and if you want totally ruin your new pc, install vista sp1 !! :D
Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 4:18 pm
by nekros
holy hell another link!
Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 1:10 am
by zaleschiemilgabriel
Nope, no flaming! If you want flaming, just compare an older GUI like Windows 3.1 to Ubuntu and Vista. Now that's responsive!
And no, it's not my NVIDIA GeForce 8500! It's just the stupid graphics...
Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 2:25 am
by JamesM
To be honest, I don't like the Gnome windowing system Ubuntu uses. It makes the computer feel slow with all the adjustments it does.
Me neither. That's why I use Kubuntu. Everyone's a winner with Kubuntu!
Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 3:06 am
by xyzzy
I use either, depending on how I feel when I install a distro
Right now I'm on GNOME but soon I may go back to KDE again.
Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 7:06 am
by Zacariaz
I don't really keep up to date with the various desktop enviroment, but usually i go with gnome.
Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 7:36 am
by binutils
JamesM wrote:To be honest, I don't like the Gnome windowing system Ubuntu uses. It makes the computer feel slow with all the adjustments it does.
Me neither. That's why I use Kubuntu. Everyone's a winner with Kubuntu!
weird, that's why i am using gnome/plan9port/winxpsp2, i am very proud of NOT using kde, ofcourse i had pretty experience what kde is.
Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 9:13 am
by JamesM
binutils wrote:JamesM wrote:To be honest, I don't like the Gnome windowing system Ubuntu uses. It makes the computer feel slow with all the adjustments it does.
Me neither. That's why I use Kubuntu. Everyone's a winner with Kubuntu!
weird, that's why i am using gnome/plan9port/winxpsp2, i am very proud of NOT using kde, ofcourse i had pretty experience what kde is.
We all know you secretly mourn the loss of Kate and KDevelop at night. You don't need to hide it from us! Let your emotions out binutils!
Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 9:39 am
by inflater
Who doesn't like GNOME?
I don't like KDE. Too much eye candy and from the default Kubuntu style, the eyes do hurt.