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easiest way to do an os
Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 11:42 am
by skytek203
the easiest way to do an os is with darkbasic or darkbasic pro you can do an os suppurtin dx10 and your own graphics if you got dbp check it out www.darkbasicpro.com
Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 11:47 am
by earlz
OMG! I use to use DB...and I even tried to make a shell type thing in it...
and no, it really isn't the way to go...no matter how many plugins you have, it's never powerful enough...restriction is in the language itself, which is Basic... it's just not suited for making an OS in
I'm pretty sure Rich(ahh...memories) wouldn't want you spamming... even if for his name..
Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 12:23 pm
by skytek203
is petty god then some dude maked a fake os in 2 days i will post it if i found it
Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 12:45 pm
by Telgin
An OS can be done in BASIC, hasn't one of the more senior members here done it before?
Generally though, it's not very suited to making an OS. I'd assume that there's too much assembly work you'd have to do and the like to get around limitations in the language.
Of course, it wouldn't be hard to make a fake command shell in BASIC, but that's not an OS by any stretch of the imagination.
Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 1:03 pm
by piranha
Telgin wrote:An OS can be done in BASIC, hasn't one of the more senior members here done it before?
Generally though, it's not very suited to making an OS. I'd assume that there's too much assembly work you'd have to do and the like to get around limitations in the language.
Of course, it wouldn't be hard to make a fake command shell in BASIC, but that's not an OS by any stretch of the imagination.
That would be Combuster.
-JL
Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 1:20 pm
by inflater
Guys, DarkBASIC is ONLY for creating Win32 games... it can NOT create anything else... Check out "FPS Creator", another sucky program from The game creators (thats the company that created DarkBASIC). Again - you can't create anything else than games or demos in it; and a OS? Pathetic.
If you don't believe, try it.
Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 8:03 pm
by AndrewAPrice
[sarcasm]I think I might write an OS in The Games Factory. I've already designed my GUI buttons
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Re: easiest way to do an os
Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 12:44 am
by Candy
skytek203 wrote:the easiest way to do an os is with darkbasic or darkbasic pro you can do an os suppurtin dx10 and your own graphics if you got dbp check it out www.darkbasicpro.com
If you want an OS that /REQUIRES/ Windows to be installed and running, sure thing.
Our definition of an OS is something that requires that no other OS is running. So by that definition, you can't write an OS that has dx10 support trivially.
Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 1:32 am
by ucosty
At work today I thought the post only contained the link and the arrow. Now at home (with my higher contrast screen) I can see the stupid white text.
Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 1:42 am
by xyzzy
the easiest way to do an os is with darkbasic or darkbasic pro you can do an os suppurtin dx10 and your own graphics if you got dbp check it out
Are you joking? Oh no of course you aren't! DirectX 10, I mean that's really easy it comes all built in! After all an OS runs on Windoze right?!
Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 3:09 am
by AJ
I remember someone once posted a link here to some forums about 'Developping an OS', where it was really a load of people designing replacement shells for Windows - wish I could remember the link or find the post because it was quite entertaining reading.
There was an OS devver on the forum trying to persuade these people that writing a shell is not the same as writing an OS - it may even have been one of our own members (someone from the MT forum, I think).
Cheers,
Adam
Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 4:51 am
by JoeKayzA
AJ wrote:I remember someone once posted a link here to some forums about 'Developping an OS', where it was really a load of people designing replacement shells for Windows - wish I could remember the link or find the post because it was quite entertaining reading.
I've had a similar experience some time ago, on a forum where people discussed the big technical advantages (at the operating system level) of windows vista vs. its predecessors. In fact, they where arguing over gui and shell changes - this button has moved to the other corner of the window, the start button doesn't read "Start" anymore and stuff. Well, and that's why we need a so much more advanced operating system. I guess it took hundreds of experienced software engineers to implement those improvements. (sarcasm, btw)
Oh well...
Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 9:12 am
by Combuster
piranha wrote:Telgin wrote:An OS can be done in BASIC, hasn't one of the more senior members here done it before?
Generally though, it's not very suited to making an OS. I'd assume that there's too much assembly work you'd have to do and the like to get around limitations in the language.
Of course, it wouldn't be hard to make a fake command shell in BASIC, but that's not an OS by any stretch of the imagination.
That would be Combuster.
-JL
That was FreeBasic. The OP uses DarkBasic, and his attitude reminds me of the basic programmer prejudices many of you have (I won't bother to deny it isn't true for the average case). The kind a few will know I do not like being associated with
Suffice to say: everything is possible, but know where to stop.
Basic programmers are the people that design a funky gui, write MsgBox "Hello World!", and say they can program
@OP: I do not think your knowledge of computers is sufficient to be here atm. Try coming back in a year or so.
Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 9:54 am
by piranha
I agree with Combuster. If you seriously think that an OS runs on top of Windows, then you have no business creating an OS (that does NOT need windows to run).
-JL
Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 9:56 am
by inflater
Maybe he should create a fancey new explorer.exe shell