About RHCE????

atmb4u · Post by **atmb4u** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 7:19 am

What is your opinion about RHCE(Red Hat Certified Engineer) certification? Is it valid??

Solar · Post by **Solar** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 7:22 am

I guess it depends on what you want to do. For a Microsoft developer, a car mechanic or an arts teacher, I'd guess it's pretty worthless.

os64dev · Post by **os64dev** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 7:24 am

dito. as most of the current industry is windows minded, it if pretty worthless

Brynet-Inc · Post by **Brynet-Inc** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 9:38 am

Certifications are nonsense anyway..

But "os64dev", Are you stoned? Unix-like systems are used all around the world on servers.. even most of the worlds top 500 supercomputers run a Unix-like OS.

01000101 · Post by **01000101** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 12:45 pm

top 100...
microsoft currently holds more than 85% of the worlds PC market.

you are talking about a few dedicated systems that probably have a custom UNIX-like kernel (not red hat) that probably has its own certification to work on it.

TONS of servers run WindowsNT 4 or Server2003. If you want to get a certification that can get you a decent job, get a microsoft cert or a + cert. If you want a certification that you can show off to your friends about how geeky and anti-windows you are, get a red-hat cert.

JackScott · Post by **JackScott** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 3:41 pm

If you want certification that you can show off, get a BSc or other degree in a computing-related field, and then compile a great folio of projects, and have great work experience.

AndrewAPrice · Post by **AndrewAPrice** » Tue Nov 06, 2007 2:10 am

Yayyak wrote:If you want certification that you can show off, get a BSc or other degree in a computing-related field, and then compile a great folio of projects, and have great work experience.

Well said.

Red Hat is sort of like the Microsoft of open source.

Solar · Post by **Solar** » Tue Nov 06, 2007 2:37 am

01000101 wrote:microsoft currently holds more than 85% of the worlds PC market. [...] TONS of servers run WindowsNT 4 or Server2003.

I beg to differ. The 85% market share "of the worlds PC market" give you a job in user help desk, administration, and - if you are lucky - in a company that creates "standard software".

The situation is different in the corporate world. While still (well over) 85% of all workstations run Windows, e.g. the servers in the company I work for are running Solaris, with a good percentage of applications running on the host (yes, that means COBOL). Web hosting is dominated by Linux.

I agree that Windows is "mainstream", but that also means that's where the majority of the dumb, cheap code monkeys are. I wouldn't sneer at a Red Hat certification, if you have to make do with a certification instead of job references.

AndrewAPrice · Post by **AndrewAPrice** » Tue Nov 06, 2007 4:43 am

Solar wrote:I agree that Windows is "mainstream", but that also means that's where the majority of the dumb, cheap code monkeys are.

Like those 12 year olds that know a little VB6, and then they create a GeoCities website that advertises: "Custom s0ftwar3z - contact 1 of us 4 custom s0ftwar3z" expecting paying customers.

01000101 · Post by **01000101** » Tue Nov 06, 2007 12:29 pm

that 85% is of ALL computer systems (server/wrkstation/homepc).

and yes, if you broke that down in to subsystems then you can find a win here and there for Solaris/Unix/OSX/OS2 ect...

I was pointing out the majority of the tech market.

And when you get a microsoft certification, you don't instantly become middle-eastern and work at a helpdesk all day (pardon the indian bit). If you get a microsoft cert you have a higher chance of getting better jobs in the tech market IN GENERAL.

I think more 'normal jobs' that pay good will see the Microsoft cert as far more valuble because they are probably MS users as well.

Solar · Post by **Solar** » Wed Nov 07, 2007 2:06 am

01000101 wrote:If you get a microsoft cert you have a higher chance of getting better jobs in the tech market IN GENERAL.

My experience says otherwise. Several recruiters I know personally take a MSCE cert as a warning that the person in question might be a phony. It is a "mainstream" certification. Too many bad MSCE's in the business have tainted the reputation of that certification. It can be an asset if combined with other references, but on its own, it won't open doors for you (any more than any other comparable paper showing that you have spend time reading books), except in companies where they believe strongly in Microsoft being the alpha and omega. I wouldn't want to work in such a place...