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Death to all homework............

Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 5:11 pm
by piranha
I hate homework!

I realize the value of it, and think that the idea is good, but there are 2 problems:

1) If I do too much of the same basic problem (say, in math) I no longer care about it, and I forget more of it.

2) The teachers should :o communicate with each other, and make sure they don't all assign 2 hours of homework each on the same night.

OK, I should get back to my math homework now......... :cry:

Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 6:53 pm
by frank
I wish homework was optional. Why do I have to do pages and pages of homework when I understand something better than most of the class. If you don't do your homework and you do bad then you have no one to blame but yourself. I usually do my homework in other teachers classes anyways or that morning, ooo do I love being a slacker.

Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 6:55 pm
by Pyrofan1
if it wasn't for homework i would have had A's in all my classes.

Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 7:03 pm
by frank
Pyrofan1 wrote:if it wasn't for homework i would have had A's in all my classes.
Yeah I stopped doing to homework for a lot of my classes, cost me an A in at least one.

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 8:16 am
by inflater
I wish homework was optional.
My words, brother. If you will forget, like, math homework in our land, school, and class, and someone will tell it about the whole class (including teacher), you've got yourself an 5. W/o mercy (F, as long our numbering system doesn't have "6" as for F :D, unlike the American one). Also depends on the teacher too... but the math teacher sure is (...). :evil: I think the teacher is POSESSED with math ! :lol: When we had Slovak langauge lesson and there were nothing to do, suddenly, the teacher walked in, and told "Solve equations and make the true-false test".... It was like five equations, something like this:

3 1/2 + 4/5x -(-50+4 - sqr_root(144)) : 2 = x - 5x + 45 1/2 - ([4,5 x 2 - 3] : 2) x 8

Without calculator of course. It's easy to do but it kills time and one error in counting -> the whole equation has no solution.

Well what you can do, the (...) teacher is a "procratrix" in our school, something like principal, but degraded... God, why I cant leave TNT right before her house door? It would totally cheer me up :lol: :twisted:
OK, I should get back to my math homework now.........
What do you have the kind of homework to do? Percentages? Counting usury? Pytaghorean theorem? Fragments? (my favorites :P) - Easy. When it wouldn't come to big equations its all okay. :D
Can you use calculator in exams? And, do you cheat when writing a test? (I do sometime :D:D)

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 5:05 pm
by piranha
What do you have the kind of homework to do?
Actually, I am a freshman in high school, but I am taking Algebra2/Trig.

We are currently working on recursive formulas, so it's kinda boring....


-JL

Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 1:42 pm
by earlz
Yea, I get really annoyed when the teacher assigns like 20 of the same problem, and after you have already got the concept and have done like 8 or 9 of the problems...you just get annoyed...

my least favorite thing to do though is writing definitions, because you know it is just busy work...

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 7:32 pm
by Crazed123
Wait till you get to college and your CS prof makes you convert ten times between IEEE floating-point binary representation and decimal.

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 12:35 am
by AndrewAPrice
Crazed123 wrote:Wait till you get to college and your CS prof makes you convert ten times between IEEE floating-point binary representation and decimal.
Or having to calculate the angle between vectors over and over again.

First you need to normalise them (divide the vector by the length (use pythagorus to get the length)). Then you work out the acos of the dot product of the normalised vectors.

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 1:51 am
by Solar
I have been out of school for 15 years now. And I tell you what, I wish I had done my homeworks better, especially maths. It might be hard to believe for you now, but everything you haven't repeated over and over and over again will be forgotten after a relatively small period of neglect.

I had been a math wiz at school, at least until I got a teacher that sucked royally at explaining things and I dropped the subject. Then, I spend about 7 years of my life without much applied math at all.

Today, I suck royally at math. I have to think twice about where to put the sine and where the cosine, and it goes rapidly downhill from there. That's a real dent in your skills portfolio when you're working in the software industry.

Consider those boring homeworks as being alike to sandbag time for a boxer. It's boring, it's tiresome, but you need it if you want those movements to be second nature when you need it most.

Gosh, I sound like my own dad. :P

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 3:46 am
by Zacariaz
Solar wrote:I whish I had done my homeworks better!
I second that!
It is easy to learn when you're young and the harder you study, the less chance there is of you forgetting it again.
I did allright in scool, but i could have done so much better, especially math, i really had/have? a talent for it, but today i often find my self in the situation that there is something i dont know that i need for some project or simular. I find a book or two regarding the subject and start reading, but it is damn hard! first of all i have forgotten alot of the knowledge required to understand what im reading and secondly i dont have a teacher that i can ask. On the forums and newgroups where i poat my questions, i often feel that i am humiliating my self by asking these, sometimes, rather (cant find the right word) stupid questions, and sometimes i am.

My only advise will be to trust those who tell you exactly what i have just told you, im sure im not the only one, and wait untill later in you life with all the beardrinking and stuff, theres plenty of time for that.

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 4:24 am
by JamesM
all the beardrinking and stuff
*imagines drinking freshly minced and juiced brown bear through a straw*

Seriously though, I third what these guys have said. I'm still at university (work placement year), but I wish I'd done more maths.

As it is, I did three maths A-levels in total (that's 18 modules, which I did on the old syllabus for all those in the UK) and I still wish I'd put more effort into my homework.

For instance, I supplemented my meagre earnings at a part-time job in my second year at uni with maths tutoring at £10 per hour. Which is pretty good money considering I was teaching pythagoras and sine/cosine at the most basic level (p*ss easy for anyone who's done an A level in maths).

My point is twofold. Firstly, by doing decently in school, I get 1. extra money at uni and 2. teaching practice (I love teaching, which is partly why im writing my tutorial set). The second point is that the guy I was teaching didn't attend in school, and was thus out of pocket £10 once or twice a week. (plus he had an inferior job, etc etc).

I'm not saying you'll end up like him, without the ability to do the simplest maths or write a formal letter correctly (he's a great guy btw, don't think I'm bashing him, just using him as an example), because you're on this forum and are thus much more intelligent. But it's a sliding scale, and whatever you don't feel like learning now will come back and bite you in the arse later on in life. Don't underestimate how good a wide variety of skills / advanced level of skills looks on job application forms. Employers (of the kind of job you'll be going for) want people who will try to do their job and more - people with a passion for learning. Exhibiting that will get you far in life.

Oh dear I sound like my grandfather ;) ;)

JamesM

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 10:53 am
by Zacariaz
Oh ya, just wanted to say that its no coincident that all the nerds from scool end up with the biggest paychecks ;)

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 1:02 pm
by t0xic
I know how you feel piranha. Im a freshman with all honors classes and Alg II honors <juniors and seniors in my class lol>

Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 4:14 pm
by GeistVogel
yes homework sucks.

algebra 2 and trig are essential though. just wait until calculus 2 in college when you must know trig identities like the back of your hand to do techniques of integration. you'll be thankful for all the trig homework...