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Using a content managment system (e107,phpnuke) or not?

Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 6:49 am
by inflater
Hi,
I got a bit sick of my old design at http://www.portixos.tk, so I am planning something different. Actually, I would like to use some of the simpler content-managment systems for web sites.

What do you think? Is it a good idea, to use at least a simpler CM system?

Thank you.
inflater

Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 7:46 am
by ehird
It doesn't really matter. For small sites, no, don't. Otherwise, yes. Get one of the small ones like CMS Made Simple though.

Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 8:24 am
by Alboin
CMS is awesome. CMS make simple is good for small sites, while mambo is good for larger sites, and has more features. I currently use CMS made simple for one of my sites.....Very easy to update and maintain.

Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 9:32 am
by inflater
If you visited my site recently, you noticed that PHP fusion was installed on it. But I had problems with it - I had to somehow construct a 2 language version, which is time consuming worser than original HTTP interface...

PHP fusion removed...

inflater

Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 7:14 am
by Combuster
So far all the CMSs i've seen are poor on integrating nonstandard stuff unless you do it their way. Hence the best results are achieved by tailoring your own system.

There's nothing wrong with CMSs, but most, if not all, are not designed with os development in mind...

Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 10:37 am
by ehird
What's so special about an OS' site?!

Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 12:48 pm
by Alboin
ehird wrote:What's so special about an OS' site?!
Yeah, I'm not sure what he meant by that either. Wouldn't an OS site be simple, as all you want is a download section, and some sections telling about your OS? This would be a prime candidate for CMS.

What's "nonstandard" stuff, exactly?

Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 1:46 pm
by Combuster
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Alboin wrote:What's "nonstandard" stuff, exactly?
Browse my site and you'll notice some things a regular CMS would NOT be able to pull off.
- Integrated source browser with syntax highlighting
- Automatic updating of downloads, including timestamps
- Nightly builds
- Generated documentation (as well as the fact that all information on site is contained in the source package)

In short, i have to spend no time to keep my site updated as it will do that on its own :D

Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 2:12 pm
by ehird
Plenty of CMS' with a few plugins can do that. That's CODE-specific stuff, not OS-specific stuff.

Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 3:18 pm
by Combuster
ehird wrote:Plenty of CMS' with a few plugins can do that.
I've just run my preference through http://www.cmsmatrix.org/ and it only returns 4 CMSes that qualify (It must be free, use PostgreSQL, php, run on a basic linux install with apache). I filtered them through google and found no trace of evidence of them being shipped with source browsers (let alone, syntax highlighted ones linked to SVN). :roll:

Given that I wrote my sourcebrowser from scratch due to a lack of quick-and-easy solutions, Spending a few days searching and hacking things together since syntax highlighters for more than one language are a rare commodity, i honestly doubt an out-of-the-box CMS (even with plugins) will be able to replace my site without loss of features or considerable hacking.

But maybe i overlooked something... so if you have proof of the opposite i'll change my opinion.

Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 3:35 pm
by Alboin
Why don't you polish your engine up and start a project? You could call it the CMS for programmers, or CMSFP.

Then we could all use it. :wink: (Considering you have templates without frames, that is.)

Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 8:15 am
by inflater
Okay, thanks for your responses.... Should I add a forum to that site? You know, not a general OSdev forum, but something like dedicated to PortixOS and I will give space to any other OS in there; what do you think? Or it is a waste of time?

inflater

Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 2:01 pm
by Alboin
inflater wrote:Okay, thanks for your responses.... Should I add a forum to that site? You know, not a general OSdev forum, but something like dedicated to PortixOS
Why not? A forum is always a good idea.
inflater wrote:and I will give space to any other OS in there; what do you think?
I would tread lightly here. It depends on the amount of space and bandwidth you have. If you have a nice amount of both then go ahead, but if not, I wouldn't advise it....

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 8:06 am
by inflater
- I can have from 50 MB (on WZ.CZ hosting) up to 300 MB free space on other hostings that I know and that are ad free. I am currently developing RSFS, and the whole installation binary (for MS-B0SS) packed in ZIP has only ~40 kB with the whole kernel... :) Of course, I will release a raw disk image for not-windoze users (or users with Windows Vista, ugh).

Bandwith on my webhosting is not limited, I think.

-Maybe I will get a new hosting with .COM domain. ;)

inflater

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 8:23 am
by inflater
For Windoze users (may work on Linux too):

I found this on web:
Click on START button, select "Run" and type in this:

Code: Select all

telnet towel.blinkenlights.nl 
and press ENTER. You must be connected to Internet, though.

Enjoy 8)

inflater