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This IS an avoidable future! (Don't click dial-up users!!)
Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 9:25 pm
by Brynet-Inc
I found this funny, Can't stop laughing really.. It'll be what the future is like if people don't switch to BSD or Linux already!
EDIT: Removed 2015: Imageshack replaced all links with spam.
Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 10:01 pm
by Alboin
Not to start anything, but seriously, Linux is not the answer for everybody. Sure, it's great for programmers, but for anyone who hasn't used a makefile before, it's just not really worth the effort.
For instance, I want a graphical ftp client. In linux, I download an rpm\whatever, and hope it installs. If not, I download the source, compile (Hope that works.) and add a link in my menu. This takes considerable time to setup if anything goes wrong, and I may not be able to install it at all.
In Windows, however, I dowload an exe setup program and off I go. It's that easy. (95% of the time.)
This being, if one doesn't need 12,002 free c compilers, Windows is a viable option. (This really isn't meant as an argument or anything of such, so don't take it in such a way.)
Just a thought...
Besides that, it's a funny clip.
Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 10:21 pm
by Brynet-Inc
Last time I checked there isn't that many free C compilers out there
GCC is usually a viable option.
About your post that BSD/Linux is not for everyone.. Fine
They shouldn't be using computers either..
People actually had to understand a computer before using it.. Maybe they still should..
Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 10:36 pm
by Alboin
Brynet-Inc wrote:Last time I checked there isn't that many free C compilers out there
GCC is a viable option.
And what about Bruce's C Compiler?
Brynet-Inc wrote:About your post BSD/Linux is not for everyone.. Fine
then maybe they shouldn't be using Computers either..
Uh..Okay, don't...let..them..use...computers....Then, you wouldn't be able to buy movies at Blockbuster, order food at McDonald's, or anything else that lets us live the lives that we do.
Brynet-Inc wrote:
People actually had to understand a computer before using it.. Maybe they still should..
People had to understand computers 50 years ago when computers were made with tubes, but today they are much more advanced SO people could use them without having to know their internals. In fact, John Adams said this 180' some years ago:
John Adams wrote:I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy. My sons ought to study mathematics and philosophy, geography, natural history, naval architecture, navigation, commerce, and agriculture, in order to give their children a right to study painting, poetry, music, architecture, statuary, tapestry, and porcelain.
See? Our predecessors had to build layers of abstractions so that we could build off of them at higher levels and further our learning.
It makes sense really.....
Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 10:41 pm
by niteice
RPMs are so 2002
If you use a decent distribution like Debian or its derivatives, software management is a LOT easier since much more effort is put into making packages compatible with each other.
I'm not suggesting you switch, just throwing that tidbit out there.
Oh and arguing with Brynet is useless. His ego is too big for the forum.
Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 10:44 pm
by Alboin
niteice wrote:RPMs are so 2002
If you use a decent distribution like Debian or its derivatives, software management is a LOT easier since much more effort is put into making packages compatible with each other.
I'm not suggesting you switch, just throwing that tidbit out there.
I know
....But Suse uses rpm, and I like Suse. (In fact, I'm still using 9.3
)
niteice wrote:Oh and arguing with Brynet is useless. His ego can't fit in this one forum.
Terribly sorry.
Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 12:05 am
by spix
FWIW, My mum has been using Ubuntu for over a year now. She is not very computer literate. I have had to fix her computer once in this time.
Linux is dead easy if you choose something like ubuntu. In my experience with computer illiterate users GNOME is an easier to use GUI than Mac OS X and windows.
I think the problem is Linux is difficult for the middle users. People who think they know something about computers, but really they know something about Microsoft Windows.
Having said that, I don't think Windows is any more or less stable than Linux these days. Windows has improved dramatically with XP, and Linux has gotten worse with Linus' v2.6 tree is it stable or not tree.
I agree that different Operating Systems suit different people.. has everyone here taken the OS test?
http://bbspot.com/News/2003/01/os_quiz.php
Re: This IS an avoidable future! (Don't click dial-up users!
Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 12:26 am
by Colonel Kernel
Oh goody, another platform pissing contest!
Brynet-Inc wrote:It'll be what the future is like if people don't switch to BSD or Linux already!
Nice
BTW, does Mac OS X count as a BSD variant?
In Windows, however, I dowload an exe setup program and off I go. It's that easy. (95% of the time.)
Insert standard comment about dragging an icon to the Applications folder here...
About your post that BSD/Linux is not for everyone.. Fine Razz They shouldn't be using computers either..
Is it that you think computers were invented for your own amusement, or is mastering needless complexity the only way for you to feel manly?
Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 12:38 am
by JackScott
IMHO:
A computer is only a means to an end. Arguing over which system is better (whether this be text editor, operating system or whatever) is pointless, because different people are going to work in different ways. These different methods of working mean that they are going to have a system on which they are most productive, and this is going to be individual for each user. This is because the user will naturally set options, create batch files and shortcuts, that all work for them.
Part of our work, as programmers (and operating system developers in particular) is to create the best system we can, and let the users decide what they want. For this reason, compatibility with other systems is important because it allows a user more freedom in what they can achieve with their system, and thus is likely to make them more productive.
Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 12:41 am
by AndrewAPrice
"You are OS X. You tend to be fashionable and clever despite being a bit transparent. Now that you've reached some stability you're expecting greater popularity."
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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 2:28 am
by Cheery
That was hilarious.
Re: This IS an avoidable future! (Don't click dial-up users!
Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 2:25 pm
by Alboin
Colonel Kernel wrote:Oh goody, another platform pissing contest!
Not exactly what I was going for. (Sorry if I didn't put myself clearly.) I was simply saying that there is no operating system for every task. By saying that there is, your making the same mistake Sauron made.
PS: I got Amiga OS.
Re: This IS an avoidable future! (Don't click dial-up users!
Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 2:29 pm
by Colonel Kernel
Alboin wrote:Colonel Kernel wrote:Oh goody, another platform pissing contest!
Not exactly what I was going for. (Sorry if I didn't put myself clearly.)
My comment referred to the fact that this thread was started by Brynet, and began with a shot (although a funny one) against Windows.
Re: This IS an avoidable future! (Don't click dial-up users!
Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 2:30 pm
by Alboin
Colonel Kernel wrote:Alboin wrote:Colonel Kernel wrote:Oh goody, another platform pissing contest!
Not exactly what I was going for. (Sorry if I didn't put myself clearly.)
My comment referred to the fact that this thread was started by Brynet, and began with a shot (although a funny one) against Windows.
Oh! I get it!
Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 6:08 pm
by bubach
maybe I should try it sometime..