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Hover over his E-mail icon and see =)

what is a gmail account? i have a 100mb yahoo mail inbox, that i have to log in online for so i can access it anywhere. would you recommend on getting gmail instead? i dont even know what it is but it sounds interesting.

It's the Google version of Hotmail and I think it's got 1Gb storage (the hell they can provide that's beyond me though)

chris wrote: Hover over his E-mail icon and see =)

He's posting as a guest ::)

DennisCGc wrote:

chris wrote: Hover over his E-mail icon and see =)

He's posting as a guest ::)

doesn't mean he doesn't have an email icon ::) ::) ::) ::) :-*

Oops :-[
Anyway, I gave him an invite...

Kon-Tiki wrote: It's the Google version of Hotmail and I think it's got 1Gb storage (the hell they can provide that's beyond me though)

Ah, this is an easy one. It is common knowledge that setting default user "quota" (the data per person limit) to something like 1GB doesn't mean you actually 1GB storage of space for each user. It is only necessary to make sure that there's always more storage than data.

There's two reasons for that: first, most people will never have 1GB data there, so it makes no sense to reserve actually space for all of them. The limit serves just as a limit: no single person can waste more than 1GB. So while most people wouldn't need to be controlled at all (because they don't have enough stuff to make it an issue) those that do use their space can still be limited, so they don't take ALL the space from the servers.

The second reason is that it takes time to fill a mailbox. When you see the storage you have is filling, you add more, before you are out of free space. That way nobody ever notices. Fortunately, by the time you need more storage, the prices have probably fallen again, and you can buy 10 times as much storage for the same amount.

mystran wrote: There's two reasons for that: first, most people will never have 1GB data there, so it makes no sense to reserve actually space for all of them. The limit serves just as a limit: no single person can waste more than 1GB. So while most people wouldn't need to be controlled at all (because they don't have enough stuff to make it an issue) those that do use their space can still be limited, so they don't take ALL the space from the servers.

The second reason is that it takes time to fill a mailbox. When you see the storage you have is filling, you add more, before you are out of free space. That way nobody ever notices. Fortunately, by the time you need more storage, the prices have probably fallen again, and you can buy 10 times as much storage for the same amount.

Plus, if you have only related people (guess why the invites?) they usually send mail back&forth, and that results in numerous copies of the same message. Same with mailing lists, they store the message once and add a link to it in each of the guys getting it.

Getting large databases of relational stuff right is their expertise. I'd almost bet my library for them using it to their advantage instead of bruteforce having a few petabytes of harddisk there.

(library includes numerous famous books and weighs more than me)

hi this a meesage i found in another forum, just copied it out here 2 find out how many of u agree with it:-
How many of u out there crave to have a GMail email account with 1000MB storage ? Probably every1 who doesnt own an email account on Google. Right ??
And for those who have a GMail account ... Dont u feel a little more lucky & privledged than ur frnd who doesnt have a Gmail account?

Well, have u ever tried to figure out y is every1 so anxious to get a GMail account when even rediff & lycos provide 1GB (r'ber GMail provides only 1000MB not 1GB ... thats 24MB less!!!) & yahoo provides 100MB ? Its jus bcoz GMail hasn't been made public yet & is given out only to 'selected people'
who google thinks are capable enough of testing the 'beta version' of their email service.

1. The 1st question that arises is that ... Who r these so-
called 'special people' ?? Is every GMail account holder really that special for Google??
Perhaps not.

2. The next question ... Most GMail users r given the right to
invite their friends to create a GMail Account in less than a week of creation of their new accounts. If GMail Beta is not to be made public then y the hell r so many invitations being given out by Google so frequently ??

3. And now for the most awaited question ... When will GMail be made Public ?? My Answer is NEVER.Why? u may wonder. Simply bcoz i feel that the act of not making
GMail public is just another brilliant business stunt ... Hats off to the guy who's brainchild it is.

Google may never make GMail public but inspite of that almost every internet user shall have a GMail account in the very near future. By not making GMail public Google simply is tryin to over-hype their email service & create excitement among non-users of Gmail, so that every fresh user who
gets it, feels special in the eyes of Google (not to 4get the friend who sent him/her the invitation) and in the excitement & hype of it simply begins using Gmail immediately as his/her primary email, discarding in the process all his old,trustworthy and well-distributed email accounts created since the time internet started, on hotmail, yahoo, lycos, rediff & other networks.
Now isnt that a brilliant way of brainwashing
:)Answer it for yourself.

rich_m wrote: How many of u out there crave to have a GMail email account with 1000MB storage ? Probably every1 who doesnt own an email account on Google. Right ??
And for those who have a GMail account ... Dont u feel a little more lucky & privledged than ur frnd who doesnt have a Gmail account?

No, actually I have one but don't use it. My current normal mailbox with infinite addresses and up to 10GB storage, that I can even view offline, fits me better.

My girlfriend switched after a month of tryout, because it doesn't have a very annoying 20minute lag to anybody not on the same mail service, which Hotmail does have. Sent them a mail and after a few mails back & forth I got their default response, which is something like "our technical staff is working on the problem. We haven't read your email but we are sure that we are busy fixing it." which boils down to "why would we care?".

Well, have u ever tried to figure out y is every1 so anxious to get a GMail account when even rediff & lycos provide 1GB (r'ber GMail provides only 1000MB not 1GB ... thats 24MB less!!!) & yahoo provides 100MB ? Its jus bcoz GMail hasn't been made public yet & is given out only to 'selected people'
who google thinks are capable enough of testing the 'beta version' of their email service.

2. The next question ... Most GMail users r given the right to
invite their friends to create a GMail Account in less than a week of creation of their new accounts. If GMail Beta is not to be made public then y the hell r so many invitations being given out by Google so frequently ??

3. And now for the most awaited question ... When will GMail be made Public ?? My Answer is NEVER.Why? u may wonder. Simply bcoz i feel that the act of not making
GMail public is just another brilliant business stunt ... Hats off to the guy who's brainchild it is.

Well... as explained in my previous post, they probably did it to improve compression ratios, and to establish links between email accounts, so that it would be easier to compress similar accounts on a single disk, and to make it easier for their algorithms to figure out which bunch of users is a group (increasing chances of email identicity between them).

They have previously taken up to 6 weeks to hand out invites, and have now reduced the time because by now all common and uncommon mailing lists have been sorted out and can be stored on their appropriate servers. Which means, that each list mail is stored only once, and served numerous times, saving tons in storage.

The only people they still can't handle are those sending authentically selfmade things in a compressed format that's still very large. That is, compressed code, photos, movies etc. Guess why there's a limit on the size of the message?

Google may never make GMail public but inspite of that almost every internet user shall have a GMail account in the very near future. By not making GMail public Google simply is tryin to over-hype their email service & create excitement among non-users of Gmail, so that every fresh user who
gets it, feels special in the eyes of Google (not to 4get the friend who sent him/her the invitation) and in the excitement & hype of it simply begins using Gmail immediately as his/her primary email, discarding in the process all his old,trustworthy and well-distributed email accounts created since the time internet started, on hotmail, yahoo, lycos, rediff & other networks.

Not entirely, but it's related. They also have a lot of well-knownness because of their search engine, which despite many effors by others (including me) has become the most prevalent search engine. Why?

It gives most response, it gives most clear response, it has caching, it has unreadable->html conversion (for pdf, ppt etc) and most of all, it's not cluttered up. If you want to search, use Google. If you want to search, read news, view ads and do a shitload of other things, use MSN or Yahoo.

PS: the idea for marketing is probably from South Park, where Cartman buys a theme park, and then advertises that nobody can come (whaddayamean, egotistical?). After a few days, rides break down. He has to hire people, so he has to let a few in. Then people break in, two more. At the end of the show he has to let somewhere in the 800s of people in, which was more than the themepark got when he didn't run it, and people are crowding to get in. It makes a point . Give a child a lollypop and the child is happy. Take the lollipop away and the child is unhappy. Show the child a lollipop outside of its range, and the child is unhappy. If the child never saw the lollipop, s/he wouldn't be unhappy in the first place.

Plus, all the good names are gone pretty soon

sir,

kindly send me a gmail account invitation

regards

rohit

chris wrote: I have 4 Gmail invites and thought I'd give them out here to anyone who wanted them. The first 4 people to post with there email will get them (I need your email to send you the invitation ).

Sorry, I haven't replied to this in a while, but I have sent you an invitation rohit.

i have 6 gmail accounts up for grabs.. ;D gotowww.lostgaijin.com leave ur address in the forum and there urs...

ill take a gmail account if i can get one please.....

df wrote: ill take a gmail account if i can get one please.....

My pleasure

(df: i just removed my email out of the quote...)