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GhostXoPCorp wrote:All i can gather.. is that i need to be a robot invented by skynet and take over the world using my AI...?

Just think about what might actually last rather than relying on the future providing any kind of continuation of the past. That won't initially appear to help you much and you'll probably have to go with a mainstream route regardless, but you might spot something along the way that you would otherwise have missed.

What happened to this thread...

Natural intelligence happened.

DavidCooper wrote:I didn't expect you to be able to follow all of that, and the fact that you couldn't follow it simply illustrates my point. Most people don't have a clue what's being done on their behalf by their governments, and those who investigate and learn the truth get shouted down and written off as nutters.

Meaningless ad hominem.

DavidCooper wrote:This is not a suitable place for going further into the specifics (which is making it hard to write this post), but millions of people have been murdered because of the actions of "good" countries. People simply cannot be trusted to run the world in a moral way because they have a nasty habit of making huge mistakes in their thinking and allowing their own prejudices to override morality. One of those mistakes cost three million lives all by itself, and even now they refuse to recognise the error, although the facts of the case make it plain.

Perfectly aware, as I said "I would be infinitely more worried about the people in control of that design and the execution of what it comes up with than I would ever be about the AI itself making "cold" decisions while teaching my children."

DavidCooper wrote:As soon as we have human-level A.I., it will set out a full, unbiassed account of everything that happened in all these cases, and then everyone will understand the need to replace the monkeys at the top with machines. The thought of continuing the old way will be infinitely scarier than the idea of using machines to guide us as to how things should be done properly, machines which supply every last bit of their reasoning and which are backed up by other machines which independently reach the same conclusions.

This is where you go completely, utterly insane.

Hi,

GhostXoPCorp wrote:Interesting quote, I guess my idea and want to go into law enforcement was a come and go idea that i had considered, but i always find myself coming back to code.

I've always been interested in programming. When I was a kid I decided that working as a programmer would take all the fun out of programming; and that I wanted to design electronics for a career and write software as a hobby. I was offered an electrical apprenticeship, and decided that it would be a "good enough" beginning.

Then I found out that being an electrician is mostly about running cables and following laws (the various standards that apply to electrical work for safety reasons, which are legal documents); with very little actual design work involved. I stuck with it for a while even though it was nothing like what I wanted to do. Since then I've done a variety of different jobs (some as an electrician, some doing similar cabling work, some completely unrelated "unskilled" jobs).

At the moment, I'm a full time student (doing a "computer studies" degree online because it's as close as I can get to "computer science" while not leaving my computer room ). Mostly I got sick of feeling like this:



Of course now that I'm older (and wiser?) I realise that if I had pursued a career in electronics (instead of taking the electrical apprenticeship), I probably would've ended up being a photo-copier repair person or something, and not designing circuits at all.

Basically (at least in my case), having an actual plan from the beginning (e.g. "electronics") is about as effective not having any plan at all.


Cheers,

Brendan

Rusky wrote:This is where you go completely, utterly insane.

..lol gunna have to read his posts now.

Brendan wrote:I've always been interested in programming. When I was a kid I decided that working as a programmer would take all the fun out of programming; and that I wanted to design electronics for a career and write software as a hobby. I was offered an electrical apprenticeship, and decided that it would be a "good enough" beginning.

Then I found out that being an electrician is mostly about running cables and following laws (the various standards that apply to electrical work for safety reasons, which are legal documents); with very little actual design work involved. I stuck with it for a while even though it was nothing like what I wanted to do. Since then I've done a variety of different jobs (some as an electrician, some doing similar cabling work, some completely unrelated "unskilled" jobs).

At the moment, I'm a full time student (doing a "computer studies" degree online because it's as close as I can get to "computer science" while not leaving my computer room ). Mostly I got sick of feeling like this:



Of course now that I'm older (and wiser?) I realise that if I had pursued a career in electronics (instead of taking the electrical apprenticeship), I probably would've ended up being a photo-copier repair person or something, and not designing circuits at all.

Basically (at least in my case), having an actual plan from the beginning (e.g. "electronics") is about as effective not having any plan at all.


Cheers,

Brendan

I had actually considered the factor of me having and not having a plan. I can sorta relate with electronics as this past year i have been interested in pcb's and other parts like capacitors, resistors, etc. Watching videos on how they work, and i have been very interested. The difference is that i believe any form of programming is fun for me, even working (in a form i believe will be working), i even considered a future as a programmer.. maybe even cs professor with a hobby of more programming and working on electronics. However i am not as old, and not as wise as many of you are who have already been through this. Thank you for your tip on this, ill take it into consideration