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I remember also using sublime in the past to learn some html.

nexos wrote:

nullplan wrote:What's stopping you?

Good question. TBH, it's solely time constraints. Time I can spend on programming is at a premium, I don't want to learn a new editor and take a lot of time on it. I mean, I know the basics of Emacs, but I have settings changes I need in order to use it but don't want to learn a new language (Emacs Lisp), especially when I've never typed a line of FP code in my life.

But I am going to switch eventually.

I don't think elisp (Emacs Lisp) is very functional. It's commonly called "a bad Lisp," which, if I understand right, means it's more procedural than functional. Besides, Emacs is designed to be so customizable that I found I hardly needed to write any code when I used it. I spent more effort on learning the bindings for its internal multi-window system than on any configuration, I think. I guess I shouldn't be too certain about it since it's 20 years since I used it. Once I'd grasped some basics, I even found it fairly easy to read code despite all the parentheses. It's probably easier still now with modern highlighting schemes.

Noone is using CLion here?

CLion is quite nice when I have everything configured autocomplete, templates, error checking and more. The only problem is that it doesn't have a good makefile support, it works but sometimes don't see new files as a source file while using wildcards, so need to reload the project.

I would like to switch to/learn vim one day, but don't have the time for it atm, have a lot of school stuff.

I discovered vigor a while a back and have been greatly impressed:

All of the graphical, point and click usability of vi, and it's just as free of EULAs and annoying paperclips as Word 97.

linguofreak wrote:I discovered vigor a while a back and have been greatly impressed:

All of the graphical, point and click usability of vi, and it's just as free of EULAs and annoying paperclips as Word 97.

I tried reading its website, but couldn't finish it since my eyes started to water. Is it satire or earnest?

vim. And tabs.

nullplan wrote:

linguofreak wrote:I discovered vigor a while a back and have been greatly impressed:

All of the graphical, point and click usability of vi, and it's just as free of EULAs and annoying paperclips as Word 97.

I tried reading its website, but couldn't finish it since my eyes started to water. Is it satire or earnest?

Poe's Law in perfection.

Read that statement again:

"...the graphical, point and click usability of vi..."

Vi(m) is about many things, but certainly not point-and-click.

"...as free of EULAs and annoying paperclips as Word 97."

Word '97 introduced the infamous paperclip.

It's literally a "paperclip assistant" plugin.

nullplan wrote:

linguofreak wrote:I discovered vigor a while a back and have been greatly impressed:

All of the graphical, point and click usability of vi, and it's just as free of EULAs and annoying paperclips as Word 97.

I tried reading its website, but couldn't finish it since my eyes started to water. Is it satire or earnest?

vigor is a work of satire. My statement about vigor was just going along with the joke (so not satire per se, but very definitely humor).

Solar wrote:Poe's Law in perfection.

My favorite phrasing of Poe's law:

"A sufficiently advanced troll is indistinguishable from a genuine kook."

I used to use Atom all the time, but since they decided to kill it off, I've moved over to VS Code.

I'm also on the waitlist for the Zed editor which is being led by the original Atom team and is the "spiritual successor". It's currently in a closed beta and for MacOS only. You can get on the list on their site.

I used to use Vim, but now I use Helix. It just feels... smoother somehow.

Mix of Neovim &Visual Studio Code

Cyao wrote:Noone is using CLion here?

CLion is quite nice when I have everything configured autocomplete, templates, error checking and more. The only problem is that it doesn't have a good makefile support, it works but sometimes don't see new files as a source file while using wildcards, so need to reload the project.

I would like to switch to/learn vim one day, but don't have the time for it atm, have a lot of school stuff.

CLion user checking in. I got a full professional sub to the JetBrains suite from work and I like having the same IDE for almost everything I have to do (Rider for Unity, DataGrip for SQL, PyCharm for Python, CLion obviously). I also think it sits in a good mid-point for functionality and performance, not as heavy as Visual Studio, more user friendly than Eclipse and with more code analysis features than VSCode. It also has good Git integration which is important to me.

I mostly use CMake which seems to be pretty well supported, never had an issue with it picking up changes but I also make a habit of manually specifying my source files, I've heard that CMake has the same issue when globbing.

vim for small changes (fixing typos in code that i discovered while building and such), otherwise VSCode with a few extensions.

For OS programming, I use Gedit, probably because that's what Ubuntu comes with by default. And for other programming, sometimes I use Gedit, a few times I use Code::Blocks, and sometimes (but only for Python programming) I use IDLE. I don't feel like I really need collapsible blocks in my code, so Gedit seems good enough. But yeah, seeing everyone else using Vi and VSCode makes me wonder if I should use one of those for a while. I hope that the fact that I speak Danish (where "vi" means "we") and Spanish (where it means "I saw") isn't somehow biasing me against using Vi.