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C++ is complicated .... compilcated.... compilcated etc...and then once you learn it...it's easy...confusing...and then easy....but you'll be able to program anything ( except bootsectors...mostly ).

sweet. im gonna learn it then. i just gotta wait til i get the book. i dont know when i will get it. i dont know if i will buy it. maybe i will ask for christmas.

I have a friend (a fiend[sorry, latin and english are the best languages to make jokes about funny words]) in Japan who has been programming with VC++ for...I think like three years or so and he isn't the man in it yet^^There's always something new you can learn and it's true that it is a complicated language...He is working in a firm as a part time(or is it part-time..) programmer though, and maybe that tells something about him...If you learn the thing in two years and don't quit in the middle, I'll be so proud that I'll buy you a coffee.^^
I think comparing C++ to something like...hmm...Pascal...the main difference is the fact that you CAN learn everything about pascal from books...and also the fact that pascal...hmm...sucks...in nearly everything^^

I'm happy your willing enough to learn VC++!

I fund all my books...

I think you [Joey] will probly learn C++ faster than 2 years

It also depends on time you have on the computer ...if you have that much a post count...you probly will learn C++ fast . But...don't spend too much time learning C++...once you get fusterated...take a 5-ten minute brake and post here

Hope that helps,

actually im not supposed to be on the pc now. monday to thursday i cant use the pc. i can only use it on fri, sat, and sun, or any days off from school. this sucks. but i sneak in the internet and tell me mom im doing hm or something. this pisses me off i wont have much time to work on c++. i could always read the book, then do the coding when i can use the pc though. ill find someway to get as much work in as possible. thanks everyone.

Hmm...I think you can learn C++ a good amount (by time) if you have enough time for THAT post count

Also...I what C++ book are you trying to buy?...
Also...I read the back cover on Learn C++ TODAY! and it says fast results...that worked for me

Hey Hey,

Get a book called C++ Weekend Crash Course, it's really good. And i've said it once and i will say it again, Get Allegro, it will do you a world of good! And make, making games easier!

Cya.

ill take things one step at a time berserk. im getting learn c++ today, no matter what anyone says.

Learn C++ TODAY! Teaches you how to make a editor. With those skills, all C++ stuff is easier, at least for me. I can type up a little example of what the book says so you can see if you really like it.

yes please do that tom. also, what do you mean an editor? oh and would it be hard to make a in program like notepad?

The book comes with a compiler, a whole DOS IDE ( intergrated development envirment ( a editor, special one at that! ) and alot of other stuff - debuger - help you find bugs....etc.

You don't need notepad with TC++ ( the compiler that comes with the book )!

The editor you make is a DOS editor, since the book teaches your DOS first.

I'll be posting an example when I have more time on the computer ( in a hour or less ). I hope this is not bad...( copyright stuff ).

oh ok. i can wait tom, dont worry.