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Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 2:28 pm
by elfenix
bloodhound23 wrote:I'm just wondering how I could aquire an a standalone ARM.
As a general rule, you don't. Unless you have all of the equipment and know-how to etch a board, solder the parts on, and want to buy all of the parts individual. You'll have hassles though, most vendors don't like selling one of parts to hobbyists. Which means you'll need to by a kit. I suspect if you had the background/knowledge to do that, this question would not come up. It's not as simple as plugging a chip on a motherboard.

Put it like this - designing and building a board is equivalent to programming your own OS. Even the most basic serial I/O board will take a significant amount of work, time, and headache to bring up. To put that another way, you are essentially asking to buy the engine and transmission to a car, without the rest of the car, in the hopes of manufacturing the body and obtaining all the components to get that car running.

Most of what you get with standard ARM platform is a system on a chip. Which means everything is integrated in the core, and then you have to place all of the outlaying support for that on the board.

I provided you with multiple links to development boards pre-made. If you don't want to go with a development board, you don't want to go with ARM. And frankly, at that point, you are no longer embarking on a software project but a hardware project. If you want to do that - I'd suggest buying a kit. (There's one on the classic page I linked.) And you are going to loose a lot of the abilities you'd have with the ARM.

I provided the buglabs link because that is an easy, extensible set of hardware to build form. Everything they do you can buy off the self, and get schematics/diagrams for. You are not there general target audience, the important note about their product for you is that it supports JTAG - which means you get some very powerful access to the platform.

All those platforms are the closest you'll get to a 'standalone ARM' without doing substantial soldering/component work yourself. Any of them - the dev boards, the kits, etc... - will be able to load your kernel (after you've written it).

Anyone of those links I provided with dev boards will let you do raw programming to that device. The further you venture out into this territory, the more toys you'll need to do it - etching kits, ROM programmers, expensive software, etc...

Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 2:35 pm
by bloodhound23
Yes I am aware of this, but not in general, how?

Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 2:50 pm
by elfenix
Yes I am aware of this, but not in general, how?
Take the advice of someone that does this stuff for a living?

Outside of that - finish school, get in a college, and do a project.

I already posted links to everything to get you started. If you can't take the time to research and ask meaningful questions, then I'm not going to take any more time to respond to you.

Look, I'm a software guy, and I've spent a solid 2 weeks looking into something that turned out to be a hardware problem - and that's with thousands of dollars of equipment on my desk - and after asking electronics guys about what was going on.

I like being here to help, but I have better things to do with my time than sit here and repeat myself with someone who doesn't care to listen. Anyway, I'm out before my head explodes.

Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 2:57 pm
by bloodhound23
I hate money. I hate most people. I hate idiots. I hate microsoft. I hate MAC. I hate having to buy things. I hate life.

Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 3:12 pm
by crazygray1
EMO EMO EMO EMO!!!

Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 3:14 pm
by bloodhound23
I hate YOU crazygray. I hate your soul and wish it would burn!!! :evil: I want you to die. I want to make you feel pain. I want you to go emo on yourself.

Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 3:15 pm
by bloodhound23
I want you to burn in hell!!!

Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 3:16 pm
by bloodhound23
I hate you your family and your stupid dog!!!

Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 3:17 pm
by bloodhound23
Get out of my house!!!!

Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 3:17 pm
by bloodhound23
go back to where you live you are giving me a headache Dalton.

Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 3:18 pm
by bloodhound23
stop looking over my shoulder.

Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 3:18 pm
by bloodhound23
shut up.

Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 3:19 pm
by bloodhound23
eat dirt you stupid butt head!!!

Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 3:20 pm
by bloodhound23
I don't like you. I never will like you now leave me alone I already have a migrain as it is.

Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 3:31 pm
by bloodhound23
die! I hate you all.