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Re: 512-byte OS contest -POLL-

Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 9:29 am
by Troy Martin
I'd do either that or a "Smallest Kernel in a High-Level Language" compo. Or maybe a "Best Abuse of Macros" or "Best Abuse of Obfuscation" one!

Re: 512-byte OS contest -POLL-

Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 10:04 am
by Coty
I was thinking more on the lines of of a 2k limit OS with a 15kb app limit, hows that sound :?:

Re: 512-byte OS contest -POLL-

Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 10:14 am
by Slota
That wouldn't be fun though.

Re: 512-byte OS contest -POLL-

Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 10:29 am
by Coty
Why not? what needs changed?

Re: 512-byte OS contest -POLL-

Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 11:58 am
by Slota
You see, there were more contests for a "512 byte OS", not just here, check the FASM board. It shows just "how much" can you put into raw 512 bytes of code, optimizing routines and all.

Nothing should be changed at all IMO ;)

Re: 512-byte OS contest -POLL-

Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 12:12 pm
by Coty
I saw the Fasm board before I did here. So should we do 512 all over again? or shoot higher. :?:

Re: 512-byte OS contest -POLL-

Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 5:18 pm
by Troy Martin
Slota wrote:You see, there were more contests for a "512 byte OS", not just here, check the FASM board. It shows just "how much" can you put into raw 512 bytes of code, optimizing routines and all.
That's where we got the idea. Dex was one of the original compo members.
Coddy wrote:So should we do 512 all over again? or shoot higher. :?:
512 byte OS compos have been done waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyy too many times, let's do something different! I'm personally likin' commanding the things! :mrgreen:

I made a poll in the auto-delete forum for selecting the next type: http://forum.osdev.org/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=19168

Re: 512-byte OS contest -POLL-

Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 7:15 pm
by Coty
Well we could have 2 contests, the one for that poll, and the one Slota wants, because I would like to do that.

Besides I have saved all 512 contests so far here http://myos.50webs.com/extra/smallOSes the
third one is empty because it has not been done yet ;)

Re: 512-byte OS contest -POLL-

Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2009 11:40 am
by Dex
As a OS Dev forum, i think maybe you could have a compo to see who can write the best "OS Dev" tut, on some part of OS Dev.
This way you will help neebs, remember the fasm forum was a assebly forum, so we coded, but maybe people come here to learn how to make a OS and a tut would be best ;).

Re: 512-byte OS contest -POLL-

Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2009 12:29 pm
by Coty
that sounds good to, or both 512+tut contest on who could wright the best tut compiled to 512 bytes :)

Re: 512-byte OS contest -POLL-

Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2009 10:50 pm
by Love4Boobies
Troy Martin wrote:I'd do either that or a "Smallest Kernel in a High-Level Language" compo.
Smallest kernel? That's a dummy kernel and everyone can do that... :?

Re: 512-byte OS contest -POLL-

Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 9:50 pm
by a427
Coddy wrote:Well we could have 2 contests, the one for that poll, and the one Slota wants, because I would like to do that.

Besides I have saved all 512 contests so far here http://myos.50webs.com/extra/smallOSes the
third one is empty because it has not been done yet ;)
Hi, I've just found the nice 512 byte OS contest from january, but missed the deadline.

You are referring a third contest, is it already planned ? if yes what is the deadline and where can we submit entries ?

a427

Re: 512-byte OS contest -POLL-

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 9:57 am
by Troy Martin
Welcome to the forums!

We haven't planned anything yet, but once we do, anyone is welcome to join!

Re: 512-byte OS contest -POLL-

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 10:22 am
by Coty
a427 wrote:
Coddy wrote:Well we could have 2 contests, the one for that poll, and the one Slota wants, because I would like to do that.

Besides I have saved all 512 contests so far here http://myos.50webs.com/extra/smallOSes the
third one is empty because it has not been done yet ;)
Hi, I've just found the nice 512 byte OS contest from january, but missed the deadline.

You are referring a third contest, is it already planned ? if yes what is the deadline and where can we submit entries ?

a427
http://pnos.11.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?p=64#64 I have me Devin and my brother so far....

Re: 512-byte OS contest -POLL-

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 11:02 am
by a427
Ok, what's the deadline for pluto os 512 byte contest ?

(couldn't register there to post the question yet)

I intend to apply this 512 byte entry :
-pure 8086 16 bit code
-not a single bios usage (int 10, int 16, etc...)
-low level debugger-like
-dumps all registers
-dumps 12 bytes code+stack
-allows to step every asm instruction via trap flag via key 'enter'
-allows to 'animate' (auto step insn quickly) via key 'a'
-builds as a 512 byte disk sector *AND* 512 byte ROM extension (ie: store in an eeprom and stick it in a network card)
-allows to debug the second BIOS POST part (during ROM extensions lookup, and further boot strap) when run as a BIOS ext

never tested on physical machine though (only qemu), hence my question concerning the deadline.
(I still have 100 bytes left for some more features (breakpoint ? warm reboot to allow debugging bios early POST, even when booting from a floppy ?))