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Re:firefox (et al.) on a stick ?
Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 11:48 pm
by Solar
But hey, it's perfectly save, isn't it?
Isn't it, doctor Malcolm?
Re:firefox (et al.) on a stick ?
Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 10:13 am
by Kemp
Root will find a way, Root always finds a way ;D
Re:firefox (et al.) on a stick ?
Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 6:01 pm
by mystran
Yes, bring your own laptop.
Re:firefox (et al.) on a stick ?
Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 12:07 am
by Solar
...and be fired for using wireless computing equipment on company grounds. (Yes, it's prohibited, too.)
Yes, they
are a bit paranoid around here.
Re:firefox (et al.) on a stick ?
Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 12:22 am
by distantvoices
Here, they are very paranoid concerning Internet access. But if you bring your own laptop, no one would object. At least not here in IT department.
In other departments they'd scream OFFENSE, how dare you bringing your nerdish stuff here have you naught to do?
@solar: I don't wonder. Doesn't there exist someting like "Industry spys"?
OT:
Just recently I've had a talk with a Boss about reliability & open source stuff in enterprise environment. Yeah. That's been a hearty and elucidating talk. He told me something like this: If we use Open source in our Production environment, and something breaks, whom to tell: Hey, fix this! with the possibility to sue the bejeezes out of him due to contract breach. In OSS naught of these possibilities exist. So, for certain production critic stuff we use proprietary software with producers/sellers who are to give answer for any failure with the software.
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Re:firefox (et al.) on a stick ?
Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 12:54 am
by Solar
beyond infinity wrote:
@solar: I don't wonder. Doesn't there exist someting like "Industry spys"?
We're juggling numbers here that are literally worth millions, if not billions of bucks. Sure they're paranoid about that.
If we use Open source in our Production environment, and something breaks, whom to tell: Hey, fix this! with the possibility to sue the bejeezes out of him due to contract breach.
Quite understandable (and widespread) position. Of course you
can sign a contract with RedHat or SuSE - in fact, that's exactly what those Linux companies are all about - but of course then you don't have free as in free beer anymore, and you aren't free as in freedom anymore either (because the support contract is void if you start tampering with the sources).
Shows you what nice parallel reality bubble some OSS advocates live in.
Re:firefox (et al.) on a stick ?
Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 7:42 am
by mystran
Solar wrote:
...and be fired for using wireless computing equipment on company grounds. (Yes, it's prohibited, too.)
So you are getting paid over 10k? a month? Because for less that that I'd just say "FU!" and move on.
edit: I can see they don't want anything on their computers or network. But not allowing an employee to carry a laptop is not security anymore, it's either an offence, or a proof of incompetence. The only reason to ban wireless I would understand, would be equipment that is potentiall too sensitive and life critical.
Yes, they
are a bit paranoid around here.
Do they have guards armed with anti-aircraft weapons by the doors too?
Re:firefox (et al.) on a stick ?
Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 11:42 am
by Kemp
It makes a lot of sense to disallow laptops in the presence of very sensitive data. For instance, if you work in a bank in a role where you have access to logs of transactions I certainly wouldn't let you take your own laptop along, too much risk of you copying down a load of numbers and going about your business.
Re:firefox (et al.) on a stick ?
Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 5:39 pm
by mystran
But then you can't allow camera phones either, and need to do full body-check every time somebody walks in, because if you catch somebody taking pictures of them, it's probably too late already, and it isn't terribly hard to bring one if you're not regularly checked.
As it is, the only reliable ways to prevent people from stealing data are to either keep them happy, or pay them enough that it's not worth the trouble for them to steal anything.
Seriously, you have to trust people if you let them access sensitive access, because the less you trust them, the less happy they are going to be, and the more likely it's going to be that they screw you.
But hey, people are stupid.