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Re: Please help me design a motherboard

Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 2:09 pm
by naf456
If I was you I would buy an Android development board and just dissemble it - research all the IC's - Gather information on the chip - the different pins it uses - research about RTC , PIC's , GPU - and just have a bit of fun.

And Don't think "I Can Get a soldering iron and build my own motherboard!" - it just isn't going to happen - you'll need to consult with a company that has all the technology to develop your board - and that will be expensive.

Re: Please help me design a motherboard

Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 10:04 pm
by LindusSystem
Do you mean designing the motherboard that includes add your own capictors,trainsistors,IC,bus,etc(Much like designing a PCB)
(Impossible alone, you need to know electronics and computer hardware.You need to study the procesor how it works and mostly each motherboard may work only with one processor which u aim)The better way if you are a engineer try grouping with your friends)

Or do you mean taking a new motherboard and buying RAM,Grapics Memory,CD/ROM or DVD,Processor,etc and joining them.(This wuld b easy but one mistake [for example:u install a DDR2 RAM for a DDR3 Comp, u r boom])

Re: Please help me design a motherboard

Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 1:20 am
by Rudster816
LindusSystem wrote:Do you mean designing the motherboard that includes add your own capictors,trainsistors,IC,bus,etc(Much like designing a PCB)
(Impossible alone, you need to know electronics and computer hardware.You need to study the procesor how it works and mostly each motherboard may work only with one processor which u aim)The better way if you are a engineer try grouping with your friends)

Or do you mean taking a new motherboard and buying RAM,Grapics Memory,CD/ROM or DVD,Processor,etc and joining them.(This wuld b easy but one mistake [for example:u install a DDR2 RAM for a DDR3 Comp, u r boom])
If you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, and can't even use real words or proper sentences, then you shouldn't bother posting. Half the stuff in your post art just flat out wrong.

Its physically impossible to accidently install DDR2 DIMM's in to a DDR3 motherboard because they are notched differently. Although I've seen pictures of a guy who modified a PCIE video to get it to fit into a PCI slot because someone told him thats what you're supposed to do, so I won't say that something like that can't happen.

There is pretty much nothing you can screw up so bad when assemblying a computer that would cause anything to break.

Designing a PCB for something like a PIC microcontroller is well within the grasps of anyone with the aptitude to learn. Even designing a PCB for a large FPGA\CPU is quite feasible for someone without any formal EE education thanks to the internet.

Re: Please help me design a motherboard

Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 1:45 am
by Combuster
Rudster816 wrote:There is pretty much nothing you can screw up so bad when assemblying a computer that would cause anything to break.
Try not grounding yourself :wink:

(besides, dropping stuff works too)

Re: Please help me design a motherboard

Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 3:30 am
by Solar
Rudster816 wrote:There is pretty much nothing you can screw up so bad when assemblying a computer that would cause anything to break.
Let's see...
  • While trying to lock the CPU heatsink in place, slippling off the lid with the screwdriver and ramming it into the mobo. (Two times with two different systems.)
  • Misaligning a USB on-board connector by a pin row, short-circuiting something and frying the USB card reader.
  • Forgetting to connect the CPU fan to the power connector.
  • Forgetting to unscrew the nut off the connector of a DVB-S card, and using more force than sense when this made the card a tight fit in the PCI slot indeed (because the nut pressed the slot bracket outward).
  • Cutting myself on case parts (four times, I counted).
Just as a list of the things where I, personally, did screw up assembling a PC. (Don't laugh, over time I assembled a good dozen boxes for friends and myself, and you're bound to collect your share of "war stories". The fried USB card reader was the only lasting damage done.) This doesn't include the various fails while hardware-hacking my A600 and A1200 Amigas, because some of the stuff I did with them was a bit redneck to begin with. (Have you ever glued a harddrive to the case with epoxy because you ran out of space?)

Re: Please help me design a motherboard

Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 3:47 am
by Rudster816
I guess I should have worded that statement better. I was trying to allude to the fact that you won't normally break anything because you plug something in wrong\forget to plug something in\etc. Obviously you can break something, but the vast majority of mistakes simply result in it not working. Even doing something as stupid as forgetting to install the CPU's heatsink, any recent CPU will just throttle itself or shutdown.

The risk of ESD is negligible at best. Pretty much anytime I've worked on a computer, it has been on carpet. My desks usually have stuff on them, and many of the times I've used a wood surface like a table\desk, I end up putting a large scratch in them from the metal. In the 100's of hours I've worked on any computer, I've never damaged\broke anything that was caused by ESD.

Re: Please help me design a motherboard

Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 4:45 pm
by Casm
Have you ever looked at a motherboard? The countless tracks on them, hardly wider than the width of a hair (well maybe I exaggerate a bit). It is a mystery to me how they manage to drop tiny amounts of solder onto them without soldering three or four of the tracks together at the same time.


"Pretty much anytime I've worked on a computer, it has been on carpet"

You are flipping lucky then. I have done in a motherboard when a wrist strap has come adrift without me noticing it.

Re: Please help me design a motherboard

Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 9:11 pm
by NickJohnson
Solar wrote:(Have you ever glued a harddrive to the case with epoxy because you ran out of space?)
Nope. I used hot glue and metal tape.

Re: Please help me design a motherboard

Posted: Wed May 23, 2012 12:36 am
by bubach
Combuster wrote:
Rudster816 wrote:There is pretty much nothing you can screw up so bad when assemblying a computer that would cause anything to break.
Try not grounding yourself :wink:

(besides, dropping stuff works too)
Grounding yourself? You do that? Opening up the computer, and thereby touching the metal case should be enough to eliminate any risk of static load. Using wrist bands is for cowards or old geezers. ;)

OK, I should be nice - after all you did congratulate me on my birthday 2 days ago. :)

OT: Only real damage I've done while assembling a PC for a friend was to drop a 500 euro CPU on the floor and bending some of it's legs. One of them broke when I tried to get it straight, so in my panic I called up the company and blamed it on the delivery. He got a new CPU a few days later free of charge. :lol: