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@Nick: Looks like ya got me all figgered out :>

NickJohnson wrote:@gravaera:

You forgot:

• The meta-analyst: This person will deconstruct every possible direction the rest of the thread could go, and theorize on it's eventual course. This, through reverse psychology, will prevent any of the predictions from occurring. Including this one.

A central axiom of psychohistory is that the population should remain in ignorance of the results of psychohistorical analyses.

I'll respond to the other points made tomorrow when I have more time. A few of you appear to have misunderstood what I meant in a few of my posts.

gravaera wrote:@Nick: Looks like ya got me all figgered out :>

1/28th the size i was talking about... i guess it will have to do..



From now on the troll face establishes visually what one thinks about a thread. Visually its obvious what one may think

depending upon size

@BlueVelvet:

There are two kinds of religious people: Those who just are, and those who feel the need to talk about it.

There are two kinds of vegetarian people: Those who just are, and those who feel the need to talk about it.

There are two kinds of FOSS people: Those who just are, and those who feel the need to talk about it.

You see a pattern?

Sometimes the subject of religion, diet, sexual or software licensing preferences comes up, and people talk about it for some time before getting on with things.

If somebody feels the need to bring up the subject offensively and proactively, that person is usually looking for some kind of antagonism (i.e. trolling), or wants press the subject on others (i.e. evangelizing). Regardless of which subject that might be, unless it's topical for a community, that is considered rude behaviour.

Your opening post - actually your first post to this community at all - tries to put on a disguise of being topical by making some half-baked analogy. (What do you suggest? That we all become gay so the world can be a better place?) Other than that, I'll chime in with the rest and call "troll". Perhaps you're even a gay troll, who knows (or cares).

If this kind of thread had been started by someone who'd previously posted many times about OS development and maybe even created something like PinkOS, it might have been more justified, but the guy's made 8 posts so far in total, and six of them are in this thread. It does, however, remind us that there could be an advantage in providing a pink mode for all our OSes, and a purple one too. Perhaps BlueVelvet could give us some proper advice in that regard, because other than that, I can't see any point in him being here, though I haven't taken the trouble to hunt out his other two posts which may make me change my mind.

Edit: turns out that there is already a PinkOS out there (I've just checked) - I wasn't trying to point anyone towards it. I hadn't realised before that pinkos are actually commies and nothing to do with homosexuality.

DavidCooper wrote:It does, however, remind us that there could be an advantage in providing a pink mode for all our OSes, and a purple one too.

Does the OMGPonies! skin for this forum count?

Solar wrote:

DavidCooper wrote:It does, however, remind us that there could be an advantage in providing a pink mode for all our OSes, and a purple one too.

Does the OMGPonies! skin for this forum count?

I forgot about that skin. Needs more Pinkie Pie.

But in all seriousness, I think DavidCooper's implication that pink/purple == effeminate == homosexual could be seen as offensive. The OMG_Ponies theme, of course, is more of an ironic "real men wear pink" sort of thing, which is really supposed to be a subversion of that idea.

NickJohnson wrote:But in all seriousness, I think DavidCooper's implication that pink/purple == effeminate == homosexual could be seen as offensive.

I wasn't trying to offend anyone, and I doubt anyone hostile to gay people will want to comment in this thread at all, not least because from the index page it looks as if the last person to post to it is the person who's declaring himself to be gay.

Ops... pink font O.o
I have the OMG pony theme since the last first april XD
It makes me laugh every time I do login

BlueVelvet wrote:As a gay man, I take positive representations where I can get them. Any time a same-gender relationship is portrayed in a positive but very real light benefits us all. The same can be said of GNU/Linux and hobby OSs, which, much like being gay, will likely remain minorities in the a world that seems married to proprietary software, and never really "come out of the closet" and be truly ready for acceptance the desktop. But anytime we can get some good press, it helps us all. I'm a big fan of Ubuntu (even over Mac!) and I'm proud that Dell has taken a stand and acknowledged that some of us are different, and thats ok.

So you say that the relationship between GNU/Linux and hobby OSs is much like being gay, so what about the relationship between Microsoft Windows and GNU/Linux??? what about Microsoft Windows and hobby OSs??? I am SURE it is like the relationship between bisexuals and homosexuals xD xD xD xD Or you have another opinion???

Regards,
Mostafa Abd El-Aziz

gravaera wrote:Actually, it's just that this topic itself is confusingly random and really adds nothing to the forums. It doesn't add humour, interesting but unrelated knowledge about some intriguing development, a social-decentralizer, a "chance to unwind", or anything really practical at all. It's just like a plain statement of the OP's opinion on a random topic which really gives no room for comment, and honestly presents no opportunity for stimulating discussion.

There are several fixed template responses that this thread would have received if we weren't all pragmatic nit-pickers, and hadn't just got fixated on the impracticality of the thread, but had rather decided to discuss homosexuality itself; the various post archetypes would present themselves roughly this order:

• The moral precedent establisher posters: these posters would seek to make statements laced with a "forward looking" undertone which tries to present anti-gay views as being archaic, and try to present the pro-gay view as being modern, sophisticated and tolerant; the idea is to post with a tone that implies that "the majority" supports the pro-gay view.
• The personal experience and encouragement sharing poster: this poster would post with an "upbeat" tone and attempt to use a personal experience (whether good or bad) to open, then try to set up subtext of "progress" of the human species as a whole based on the progress of gay-rights, etc, and will most likely end with some encouraging words both to gays viewing the thread, and to non-gays who support homosexuals, asking both sides to continue their efforts.
• The unimpressed and unmovingly anti-gay poster: this poster will break into the thread's sequence of pro-gay posts and state that he does not surrender to the current surge of LGBT rights, etc, and will present counter-arguments for the pro-gay view.
• The accord and support providing poster: this person will agree with the above poster and present edifying points to further concrete the anti-gay view.
• The scientific evidence and research paper lobbyist: This person will call the anti-gay posters arcane, and will use tongue-in-cheek linguistics to embellish various scientific theories du jour which support the pro-gay view.
• The counter scientific evidence and research paper neutralizing poster: This person will attempt to prove using other scientific theories du jour that the anti-gay view stands firm.

The debate is now ready to burst into a flurry of activity. The following key components will begin cropping up, and several alt-accounts will be created by various members in order to reply anonymously and avoid staining their forumz reputation which they have built over months or years of e-p33n stroking.

• The person with no hard evidence who has an "opinion": This person typically will make a statement about a loved one who is currently struggling under an oppressive burden inflicted upon them by none other than "people like" the anti-gay posters, and will state that "they think" that people should leave people alone and that "in their opinion" love is all that matters.
• The guilt and shame slinging attacker: This person will state that they are ashamed to be human/black/white/young/republican etc, and will use barely understandable attempts at sarcasm and irony to avoid using facts to concrete their argument, and then generally "rage quit" the argument several times, returning at least once on each page to sling more mud before solemnly vowing to leave the pathetic thread and never return.
• The Troll: The sign that the thread is now going nowhere.
• The summoner of the moderators: This person will, along with other summoners of varying levels of power attempt to conjure up a mod to close the thread.
• The moderator: The great envoy to the end. The Alpha and Omega, the dark lord. He will close the thread in his fury and infinite wisdom.

Now let's wait and see how far this thread gets

--Peace out,
gravaera

OMG!! all of that would happen because someone said he is a gay??!!!!

Regards,
Mostafa Abd El-Aziz

BlueVelvet wrote:As a gay man, I take positive representations where I can get them. Any time a same-gender relationship is portrayed in a positive but very real light benefits us all. The same can be said of GNU/Linux and hobby OSs, which, much like being gay, will likely remain minorities in the a world that seems married to proprietary software, and never really "come out of the closet" and be truly ready for acceptance the desktop.

Actually, the majority of people use proprietary software (by a huge margin). Secondly, you're suggesting that everyone is gay but some have not yet come out of the closet (which is obviously wrong) and that the same thing applies to software (which is even more wrong, since there would be no reason to pretend to like proprietary software when you actually don't). Your rant was a bunch of baloney.

gravaera wrote:Actually, it's just that this topic itself is confusingly random and really adds nothing to the forums. It doesn't add humour, interesting but unrelated knowledge about some intriguing development, a social-decentralizer, a "chance to unwind", or anything really practical at all. It's just like a plain statement of the OP's opinion on a random topic which really gives no room for comment, and honestly presents no opportunity for stimulating discussion.

You're absolutely right but please learn to write more concisely because your verbosity almost always loses me after one paragraph, and I suspect I'm not the only one, yo.

I think this comparison is hilarious. Has someone already tried to do this without the OP thinking he/..she was being offended again or laughed at and then decided to make it the responders fault for giving a sh-t about the poor comparison that i guess was and what seemed to be a I Want Attention post.

Seriously for everyone else too, this forum is full of serious programmers (100 of the 10 hundred million billion who registered). You post a video of you getting kicked in the stones and were just going to assume you wanted attention, and that it was painful. Future bad posts fixed.

Reasoning over creativity. This thread was DEFINITELY NO DOUBT ABOUT IT a I Want Attention thread.

And why do people think they can say "---------. ----, ------Moderator lock this thread" Like they are best friends to the end. You, nor i make those decisions so stop it.


Wheres my hi-res troll face..

A) Ghost, where's the face? D:

B) somebody lkock this thread before it gets outta hand

-AlexeM