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Cloud computing is a dumb buzzword that would be terrible to actually put to use.

Agreed again.

everyone knows microsoft hires people to google interesting ideas so they can reimplement them under a different name

lollynoob wrote:Cloud computing is a dumb buzzword that would be terrible to actually put to use.
Progress is dumb.

I hear that - it's just another internet craze that won't end up going anywhere useful. Just like 'Web 2.0'...

Trying to revive the discussion.

Discussion revived

Combuster, stop bashing around

Combuster wrote:You totally missed the point:
1. Java is cross-platform. .NET is "claimed to be" crossplatform but is instead just to force everybody back to windows OSes, which is a regression. .NET doesn't even run on all windows machines.

But don't even try comparing CIL with with Java's byte code.

3. MacOS Is more expensive because it is better.

Better at what? No, really. It does crash; maybe not as often as Vista, yet I haven't had any trouble with it. You say there's no improvement and Microsoft keeps stealing ideas. Let me remind you that 90% of Mac OS is made up of open source stuff that they just bundled in. Guess that's different from stealing. And what is that about the GUI? The one that Apple stole from Xerox in the first place? I suppose you're aware that most OSes have GUIs, yet no one is arguing that they stole anything. People just have something against Microsoft for some reason.

2. I wasn't comparing Visual Studio to Eclipse. Even so, the comparison is based on personal preference and in my case Eclipse owns VS.NET for the same arguments.

Ageed.

Yes its out, M$ as bought me out
http://forum.osdev.org/viewtopic.php?f= ... &hilit=dex

JamesM wrote:

(mainly because there is no real business need for supporting other platforms )

And by that you mean that by supporting other platforms Microsoft would be taking from its own business (by people migrating from Windows to something else), not that people wouldn't use it if it were made available.

That's why over 60% of windows users, actually didn't even bought windows. My windows XP is copy from original disk from 2006 and key from serials.ws. Actually without any update seems pretty stable. The main for winXP rule is while the system is stable, don't change any configuration.

And... MS has one good program for supporting Operating System developers - Microsoft Virtual PC. I know there is no debugging on it, but runs boot program most closely to the real hardware.

...must..not...post...list..of...vpc...bugs...

MS Windows is just as stable as Mac OSX or Linux, I hear people moan and gripe about Windows and how it blue screens left and right, but I could say the same thing about kernel panics in Linux and 'grey screens' in OSX. Also, when I was working at a comp repair shop, 85+% of all blue screens were related to defective/dying/fried hardware and not because of an OS fault (more of a positive really). The other ~15% were usually due to viruses and other malicious ware that meddled in kernel/driver code, and even then you can't compare those stats to *nix-like OS's as their market just isn't big enough to entice malicious coders to wreak that sort of havoc in the first place.

VPC is nice, although it is a shame about there not being a debugger. It emulates real hardware very nicely and supports a lot of operating systems as guests. I must say that Hyper-V is MUCH better though at both speed and emulation as it runs guests almost real-time and has a phenomenal support for virtual networks and virtual-client load balancing. In fact, I'd just say that Windows Server 2008 is just amazing in general.

Dex wrote:Yes its out, M$ as bought me out
http://forum.osdev.org/viewtopic.php?f= ... &hilit=dex

Hey dex , didn't I support you from the beginnning .

Regards
Sandeep