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What about a gui that went on top of a shell.

Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 3:03 pm
by freeman_4520032
Maybe I'm just being too much of an idealist but, it would be pretty cool to have a gui that was integrate with a standard command line. Basically the root window would be one big shell and everything else just fell on top. Again maybe this is just the fantasy of a deranged student....

Re: What about a gui that went on top of a shell.

Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 3:18 pm
by suthers
freeman_4520032 wrote:Maybe I'm just being too much of an idealist but, it would be pretty cool to have a gui that was integrate with a standard command line. Basically the root window would be one big shell and everything else just fell on top. Again maybe this is just the fantasy of a deranged student....
Thats perfectly possible except for the problem defining when the command line is 'in focus', though that shoudln't be to hard to fix, just when no others APs are 'on top' the prompt is in focus...
Oh, and welcome :D
Jules

Re: What about a gui that went on top of a shell.

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 9:17 am
by lukem95
suthers wrote:
freeman_4520032 wrote:Maybe I'm just being too much of an idealist but, it would be pretty cool to have a gui that was integrate with a standard command line. Basically the root window would be one big shell and everything else just fell on top. Again maybe this is just the fantasy of a deranged student....
Thats perfectly possible except for the problem defining when the command line is 'in focus', though that shoudln't be to hard to fix, just when no others APs are 'on top' the prompt is in focus...
Oh, and welcome :D
Jules
or when the mouse is clicked on blank space (i.e. not occupied by another window), then switch focus to the shell. the other windows could be made 50% transparent or something :)

i like this idea, it's quite cool... i may include it as an option in my OS (if you dont mind? and if i get that far, i keep getting sidetracked at the moment)

Re: Windowless GUI

Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 6:13 pm
by freeman_4520032
Go for it, and when you do tell me I'll be more than willing to help debug it.

Re: Windowless GUI

Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 10:37 am
by PHPnerd
I often think about a GUI concept that doesn't is like Windows(tm) and Linux. Or text-mode. I think i am not very creative, because i didn't found anything :(
But you're idea is very good i think :D

// PHP

Re: Windowless GUI

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 5:16 am
by souradipm
Since you're talking about windows falling on top of a big shell, I assume you mean a desktop-less gui. However, I think a desktop is more appealing to the eye than a dull black shell. But then again, that's just my opinion :P

Re: Windowless GUI

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 11:28 am
by salil_bhagurkar
I find Windows very comfortable. You could have a psychological point of view:

Humans are usually accustomed to viewing partitions or owned spaces are rectangles and not circles or triangles. Viewing spaces owned by applications in form of rectangles, gives a sense of stability to the mind. I cannot explain exactly what this stability is but you could try and imagine an app space that is triangle and you try moving the app here and there... That may be doesn't sound so good.

In addition to this, all monitors are rectangles, and having application spaces, that are not rectangles, would probably disturb the symmetry and the aesthetics of the GUI.

But still, it's high time that somebody comes up with a better GUI that still makes people feel comfortable with it (possible more than M$ windows)

Re: Windowless GUI

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 5:43 pm
by AndrewAPrice
You could stack hexagon windows neatly...

Re: Windowless GUI

Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 3:01 am
by jal
MessiahAndrw wrote:You could stack hexagon windows neatly...
Yeah, but the edges of your screen would have to be zigzagging :)


JAL

Re: Windowless GUI

Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 3:36 am
by AJ
Nice idea - custom-shaped TFT's :)

Re: Windowless GUI

Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 4:18 am
by Stevo14
jal wrote:
MessiahAndrw wrote:You could stack hexagon windows neatly...
Yeah, but the edges of your screen would have to be zigzagging :)

JAL
You could make it so that there are two types of containers, they could be called "widgets" and "windows" or whatever. The "widgets" would be triangle shaped and would snap to the edges of the screen filling in the empty spaces around the hexagonal "windows". They could hold little pieces of information suck as the weather, the time, memory usage etc. Like this:
hex_windows.png

Re: Windowless GUI

Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 11:31 am
by salil_bhagurkar
=D>

And the name would be:

Benzene

with Carbon of valency 2

Re: Windowless GUI

Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 2:55 pm
by Combuster
Try triangles, you can make them right angled and fill up the space that way without gaps :D

Re: Windowless GUI

Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 3:10 pm
by freeman_4520032
That's actually a pretty good idea but, how would you code for that.

Re: Windowless GUI

Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 3:55 pm
by Stevo14
Combuster wrote:Try triangles, you can make them right angled and fill up the space that way without gaps :D
If you used octagons I think you would end up with right triangles in between. :-k Text would also layout better in an octagon because it has more surface area, although an octagon is just a square with it's corners cut off... :(

What if the "windows" had no straight edges but instead, organically grew outwards from their center until they hit something. Like pockets of cooking oil on the surface of water.