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Re: try ruby on rails

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 7:46 am
by Paw
Helu wrote:You can try Ruby on rails.It is hot and it is really cool!
"Ruby on Rails" is a web application framework, not a programming language.

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 8:05 am
by Solar
Which PL to learn next depends on what you did in the past, what you need today, and what you want to do in the future. Most languages have an area in which they excell, and areas where they are outmatched by other languages.

A new language should either be applicable to your next project, be a good add-on to your resume (either complementing what you already can, or give your career a slightly new direction), or it should generally add to your understanding of programming concepts. (I, for one, being quite confident with C/C++, and good enough with Perl and Java, will one day find the time to learn something LISP-like, because I never quite got the idea behind functional programming but heard much good about it. Before that I will probably trod the C# path because it will help keeping my family fed.)

In no way should you chose a language just because others "recommend" it without knowing you and your background rather well.

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 10:20 am
by Meor
Eiffel.

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 10:24 am
by earlz
you said you don't want a scripting language, but I would seriously give PHP a try... many practical web uses...

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 2:01 pm
by Laksen
How about Object Pascal?

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 4:53 pm
by nekros
Pascal looks like english to me, I can't browse through it easily.

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 2:26 am
by JamesM
You seem to be self-limiting your choices quite a bit - Try a scripting language like Perl. Seriously, in later life you just don't know how useful it is being able to cook up a script to do X in under a minute. You just can't do that with compiled programs, and efficiency is the name of the game.

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 4:57 am
by nekros
The way my mind works I have trouble with most of them.

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 9:57 am
by binutils
Laksen wrote:How about Object Pascal?
i would recommend oberon, personally i think bluebottle and plan 9 both similar.
http://bluebottle.ethz.ch/dlcrazy.html

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 4:55 pm
by Laksen
Bluebottle is nice and seems to have a great amount of drivers implemented already. It just seems to have some problems detecting and using dual core processors. I still haven't made it work on my desktop, it works on my laptop for some reason :roll:

Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 5:09 pm
by nekros
I have decided to go with pascal. I can't seem to find any IDE's that aren't command line based.

Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 5:48 pm
by jzgriffin
Didn't you say that Pascal was too English-based?

Also, given Scheme a look? It uses some English words (ie. define), but the syntax is pretty...not-English. :-)

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 10:26 am
by Laksen
nekros wrote:I have decided to go with pascal. I can't seem to find any IDE's that aren't command line based.
I code in Programmer Notepad 2 myself. If I'm coding for a longer time then I find myself using Turbo Delphi Explorer or Delphi 7. Dev pascal can be used but hasn't been updated for ages.

You say pascal, but is it real pascal or some sane dialect(Freepascal dialect, Delphi, Chrome, etc)?

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 1:05 am
by leledumbo
I have decided to go with pascal. I can't seem to find any IDE's that aren't command line based.
Lazarus is a RAD toolkit written in FreePascal. You can use it as a normal editor (no WYSIWYG) by creating a new FreePascal program project (default is GUI). You may need its refactoring capabilities (esp. class completion).