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JamesM · Post by **JamesM** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 3:45 am

ARM chips actually go quite fast: There's a 1GHz model out at the moment I believe.

Zacariaz · Post by **Zacariaz** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 3:49 am

im sure they are fast, but its a completely different arcitechture i should think, many thing probably will be either very different or very complicated.

lukem95 · Post by **lukem95** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 3:52 am

thats where im doing my work ex. at the moment, ARM HQ in Cambridge

JamesM · Post by **JamesM** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 3:58 am

Awesome! ARM is in fact one of the only useful tech exports this country has... (UK)

Zacariaz · Post by **Zacariaz** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 4:22 am

I have done some research and thouigh this might sound really stupid i have to ask:
What, if any, is the connection between ARM assembly and BBC BASIC and what is BBC BASIC?

I love the concept of assembly and would hate to be forced to familiarize myself with anything else.

B.E · Post by **B.E** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 4:43 am

Zacariaz wrote:
pcmattman wrote:There's a good reason: speed.
Could you say that again? And if you honestly believe you are correct could you then explain it to me?
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I think he means speed as in download speed, all them tab/spaces take up a bit of bandwidth.

JamesM · Post by **JamesM** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 5:00 am

Zacariaz wrote:I have done some research and thouigh this might sound really stupid i have to ask:
What, if any, is the connection between ARM assembly and BBC BASIC and what is BBC BASIC?

I love the concept of assembly and would hate to be forced to familiarize myself with anything else.

I believe (please don't quote me on this) that ARM stemmed from the company that made the BBC computers. If you haven't heard of them possibly they weren't popular abroad - they were old "computer-in-a-keyboard" systems - Atari or commodore style. Schools and hospitals used them due to their availability and ease of use. They also shipped with a BASIC interpreter using a dialect called "BBC Basic".

When sales of BBCs fell, the company focussed on other projects until ARM where they came back into the limelight.

This is all from memory - many parts may be inaccurate.

EDIT: a quick wikipedia tour has jogged my memory.

The BBC was an 8-bit microcomputer designed and manufactured by Acorn computers. It was picked by the BBC (British Broadcasting Corporation - state TV/radio channel) as part of it's computer literacy project (essentially distributing lots of cheap computers to increase availability). Thats how so many schools etc got BBC computers (and how I know them!)

ARM was started as a joint venture between Acorn computers and Apple - hence the link between ARM and the BBC.

EDIT2: To link back to your original post - ALL chips can be programmed in assembly, including the ARM range. BASIC (yes, alright, don't fekkin flame me again about FreeBASIC, I'm sick of it!) lies in a layer well above that of assembly.

lukem95 · Post by **lukem95** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 6:49 am

theres a tutorial on arm assembly at osdever.net

and back to the origional post in this topic (its very OFF topic now

), it's to do with how fast the browser can cope with and render these elements, also if they are required or not. The simpler the webpage, (in theory) the faster it will render.

Zacariaz · Post by **Zacariaz** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 4:29 pm

lukem_95 wrote:theres a tutorial on arm assembly at osdever.net

and back to the origional post in this topic (its very OFF topic now ),

Well it is general ramblings

lukem_95 wrote:it's to do with how fast the browser can cope with and render these elements, also if they are required or not.

I do understand the argument that having all the html/css/javascript needed on 1 page. While this might be a speed factor, the way its structured now is not benefiting speed.

lukem_95 wrote:The simpler the webpage, (in theory) the faster it will render.

But that is excactly the point, the page arent simple at all.