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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 5:01 pm
by Brynet-Inc
It's a great licence, Nice choice Alboin..
Sadly some people fail to realize you have to keep the "original licence text" in any derivatives.
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 5:07 pm
by ~
Brynet-Inc wrote:Sadly some people fail to realize you have to keep the "original licence text" in any derivatives.
As for the BSD licensed work, or even public domain, if somebody comes up with such a derivate work, and free, it effectively complies with the license even if it's not specifically planned.
But if something is licensed and does exist as a free work and somebody comes up trying to privatize it, wouldn't the free, original work prevail over the equivalent closed one, anyway?
But, yes, it looks like licensing everything properly has become a necessary routine.
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 7:04 am
by bubach
Licence on a website? Nobody is gonna give a crap anyway..
And thats my polite way of saying that you are paranoid.
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 7:28 am
by Tyler
bubach wrote:Licence on a website? Nobody is gonna give a crap anyway..
And thats my polite way of saying that you are paranoid.
Until something goes wrong and some dipshit takes you to court... that is the point of licenses, people **** on you so protect yourself, it is far from paranoid it is common sense.
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 8:19 am
by ~
However, there are many countries around the world in which people seem to have Gigabytes and Gigabytes of all sorts of illegal stuff, and they don't seem to be sued, and all they say is "it's your responsibility to download it, we only have it for reference and backup"... so, I don't get to understand how they have many many years running their highly illegal-content websites without apparent problem.
What about that? They even seem to earn something because of that...
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 10:01 am
by Alboin
bubach wrote:Licence on a website? Nobody is gonna give a crap anyway..
And thats my polite way of saying that you are paranoid.
I would rather be paranoid than sued by somebody claiming my website caused her emotional distress.
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 6:16 pm
by bubach
come on, sued for using a webpage? it's like a paranoid-flu amongst OSS people...
it's simply not going to happen, what could a webpage possibly do to you or your computer anyway?
Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 7:23 am
by Tyler
~ wrote:However, there are many countries around the world in which people seem to have Gigabytes and Gigabytes of all sorts of illegal stuff, and they don't seem to be sued, and all they say is "it's your responsibility to download it, we only have it for reference and backup"... so, I don't get to understand how they have many many years running their highly illegal-content websites without apparent problem.
What about that? They even seem to earn something because of that...
I think you miss the point. If people store illegal content, they will be shut down eventually. A license has nothing todo with being able to break the law.
Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 12:16 pm
by SpooK
Tyler wrote:~ wrote:However, there are many countries around the world in which people seem to have Gigabytes and Gigabytes of all sorts of illegal stuff, and they don't seem to be sued, and all they say is "it's your responsibility to download it, we only have it for reference and backup"... so, I don't get to understand how they have many many years running their highly illegal-content websites without apparent problem.
What about that? They even seem to earn something because of that...
I think you miss the point. If people store illegal content, they will be shut down eventually. A license has nothing todo with being able to break the law.
No, hosting illegal content requires enough money to buy the best fact-obfuscating lawyers around when you do end up in the courtroom
Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 1:08 pm
by Tyler
SpooK wrote:No, hosting illegal content requires enough money to buy the best fact-obfuscating lawyers around when you do end up in the courtroom
Well that hasn't helped any of the major torrent sites so far, at least 10 of the best are gone and the ones that still exist are losign content quickly.
Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 11:40 pm
by jhawthorn
Alboin wrote:Okay, I decided just to put a modified BSD license up to cover everything on my site.
Has Bas Vogel, the creator of your site's design, given permission for the redistribution of his html and css under your modified BSD license? I doubt it.
You can see that for something like a website, adding a license is
generally more trouble then it is worth.
I am both disturbed and in eager anticipation at the thought of what content you will have needing such a disclaimer.
P.S. Yes, this means you need to remove the license.
Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 9:14 pm
by Alboin
You're right. It's just too much worth the effort. I don't think it's even worth the effort to really have a website unless I have something to put up there. So..I'm taking everything down for now to re plan it. Plooff.