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com1 · Post by **com1** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 12:06 pm

I am looking for some more people to help me in my os development. if anyone is interested than you can email me a [email protected] for information (i will not be paying anyone).

Brynet-Inc · Post by **Brynet-Inc** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 2:03 pm

If you seriously want someone to help you out, incentive and a little more then "I won't pay you.." might be required.

Considerably lame "com1", No offence intended.

pcmattman · Post by **pcmattman** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 9:56 pm

And unless you want to/are a spammer, don't have such email addresses as '[email protected]' - get a real email address.

And give us something to play with, some ideas, concepts, something that makes us squeal in glee and stop working on our own projects... Saying that you won't pay anyone is not a good way of doing this.

com1 · Post by **com1** » Sun Apr 29, 2007 10:40 am

sorry about the "i won't pay you" part, i just don't have any money. i was thinking of an os that could "repair itself" and could have some automated functions. i have the plans for the os, but haven't written much coding for it. if anyone could help it would be great.

AndrewAPrice · Post by **AndrewAPrice** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 6:13 am

com1 wrote:sorry about the "i won't pay you" part, i just don't have any money. i was thinking of an os that could "repair itself" and could have some automated functions. i have the plans for the os, but haven't written much coding for it. if anyone could help it would be great.

You're sounding like Microsoft. "Computers create jobs, not destroy them.." and now they're bringing out programs like OneCare that are suppose to automatically report problems to their database, where it searches solutions for similar problems, and if none are found, report it to Microsoft to create a solution, and then download the solution to your computer.

Next we'll see Microsoft Board being installed on servers, which will automate decision making, and increase profit by 500%.

Then Microsoft Employee will come along, and be installed on all workstations, replacing human resources, and increase productivity by 1000%.

"Computers create jobs, not destroy them.."

com1 · Post by **com1** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 4:24 pm

uh... was that an insult? what i meant was that if there was a problem, then the report is automatically created and sent without bothering the user. the servers will analyze the report according to the large database of known bugs , potential bugs, viruses,etc. i am actually designing an AI server that will use
advanced algorithms and perceptrons. i have the design, its just hard for me to put it in words.

Brynet-Inc · Post by **Brynet-Inc** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 4:53 pm

Some people actually dislike it when their computer accesses a server without their permission...

Automatic & Secretive communications with random servers are... Microsoft's forte..

frank · Post by **frank** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 8:18 pm

You can set it too ask you before it sends any information to the Microsoft servers.

Solidus117 · Post by **Solidus117** » Tue May 01, 2007 4:11 am

Brynet-Inc wrote:Some people actually dislike it when their computer accesses a server without their permission...

Automatic & Secretive communications with random servers are... Microsoft's forte..

You have to bash Microsoft at any chance, don't you?

pcmattman · Post by **pcmattman** » Tue May 01, 2007 4:18 am

Why not? He needs something to bash...

Either way, M$ do have some issues with privacy and the like. Linux doesn't automatically update itself, but it does tell you when it needs to be updated. Personally I don't like it when any OS talks to servers I don't know about without my control/authorisation. (lol @ mac ad with vista firewall).

Imagine this: i'm running a web server, and most of my bandwidth is being used by updates/servers that aren't needed to be talked to. Although why you'd run a web server is beyond me (I do, I'm telling you, bad idea

).

Brynet-Inc · Post by **Brynet-Inc** » Tue May 01, 2007 8:17 am

Solidus117 wrote:You have to bash Microsoft at any chance, don't you?

Yes, It's my life's ambition to warn people about using defective and poorly designed software.

I of course can't force anyone to switch away yet.. (Until technology permits that is..)

frank · Post by **frank** » Tue May 01, 2007 9:35 am

You all do know that you can pretty much turn off all of the auto update, all of the send stuff back to microsoft stuff off. I am not a microsoft fanboy either so don't think that. I just don't like people bashing stuff without good reason. I don't say anything about Linux or BSD or OSX. All great OSs when used in the right way.

mystran · Post by **mystran** » Tue May 01, 2007 1:04 pm

Plus we're comparing apples to oranges, as Linux is a kernel and certainly it's not NT kernel that does automatic updates. Most Linux distributions allow the same possibilities as Windows: install automatically, download and ask, just ask, and don't even check.

As for "send stuff back to microsoft", many Linux distributions collect statistics as well (including Ubuntu that I run) because doing so is a good idea if you want to provide the best possible experience for your users. Granted, MS doesn't always ask you permission as explicitly as is common with Linux distributions, but the possible options are mostly the same..

Candy · Post by **Candy** » Wed May 02, 2007 11:32 am

mystran wrote:Plus we're comparing apples to oranges, as Linux is a kernel and certainly it's not NT kernel that does automatic updates. Most Linux distributions allow the same possibilities as Windows: install automatically, download and ask, just ask, and don't even check.

Given the amount of force Windows applies when you try to turn it off, I would say it's not far off.

As for "send stuff back to microsoft", many Linux distributions collect statistics as well (including Ubuntu that I run) because doing so is a good idea if you want to provide the best possible experience for your users. Granted, MS doesn't always ask you permission as explicitly as is common with Linux distributions, but the possible options are mostly the same..

That's very true. I've worked on both sides of the equation and I can say, anonymous usage statistics can make one hell of a lot of difference in what you fix next. If you bump into a problem once and another 50 times, you'll fix the second problem first. If your users never get to the second problem but hit the first one continually, you're going to waste your time.

Oh, also, one small detail on work. Work in a team and notice what other people do with your stuff when they see / touch it. That's what your customers are going to do too. If they do something that doesn't fit your design, figure out why they do that and fix the problem. Example: hiding a button behind a front panel required for ventilation because nobody would use it (people ended up using the button often, left off the front and overheated the units).

On the other hand, you can predict a number of things equally well. I added a scrollbar without any color indication to a graphical control panel and I predicted that people would put wide tape at the top of the unit to find items quickly. I got sent out to a location that used it a few months later and they had put a wide white piece of tape there with the most important items listed on it.

AndrewAPrice · Post by **AndrewAPrice** » Wed May 02, 2007 11:57 pm

Brynet-Inc wrote:I of course can't force anyone to switch away yet.. (Until technology permits that is..)

Yes you can! Write a windows virus that will replace Windows with Linux.

I doubt you could download and install a 5 GB distro in the background, but I doubt most novice users would notice a 50MB Damn Small Linux image downloading in the background while they're checking their e-mail, then overwriting their boot sector and forcing their PC to reboot.

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