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hakware wrote:Hm... It looks like just another UNIX. Do you have anything special to distinguish it? I mean, you've done a lot of work and all, but we already have enough nearly-indistinguishable unices.
Note that I'd say the same thing (and worse) about a windows clone, so I'm not discriminating
What's wrong with having a "UNIX-like" or POSIX compatible system? He's clearly learning about Operating System development and has spent a lot of time writing it, While you might not be able to "comprehend" much past how it looks from the user perspective.. He's already ported quite a few things like binutils/newlib and nasm What exactly do you have to show for "XANA"?.
I myself think standards are great, Unix-like designs are brilliant... and having the ability to port existing applications to ones OS is a great advantage.
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I don't deny that what he's doing is great. I'm just concerned that it's not producing any new ideas. I used not to be concerned so much with that, but now I see that there's Linux, all the BSDs, OS X, Solaris, and countless other unices, and most of the differences between them are minimal enough that you can use the same code on all of them. I understand that's the point. But the point of making something new is usually to actually produce something that hasn't been done before.
I wasn't insulting him. I was just asking him if he had incorporated any new and interesting ideas or designs into this. If he's just doing this to learn about unix, then that's great, and he's doing an awesome job. If he's doing this to implement something the way HE wants it done (because of disagreeing with how it's done somewhere else) I want to hear both sides of the argument and learn from it.
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- Theodore Holm Nelson
Here we go. That makes two people that have actually done something practical instead of dreaming. Like I said if I wanted to see pretty pictures I would have joined a forum about GIMP, and if I wanted to read about someone's dream I would click on the development sub forum here at www.osdev.org if anything. And that is not a rash remark that someone's dream is stupid or not important its just a remark that this sub forum serves a actual purpose not a junk file for lost things I would hope.
hakware wrote:Hm... It looks like just another UNIX. Do you have anything special to distinguish it? I mean, you've done a lot of work and all, but we already have enough nearly-indistinguishable unices.
Note that I'd say the same thing (and worse) about a windows clone, so I'm not discriminating
At least he has something to show for all the work he's been doing. Where's the screenshots of your OS? I've heard a lot of theory, a lot of ideas... haven't seen a lot of action.
And in the end, how can we not create Unix clones? When it comes down to it, most of our work goes into the behind-the-scenes stuff anyway, the interface and shell is like the icing on the cake. You always put the icing on last, and spend more time baking the cake.
My $0.2.
And in reply to Kevin McGuire: OminOS, IMHO is an amazing piece of work. Really well thought out. I agree with you there.
What exactly do you have to show for "XANA"?.
