1.246868988?CWood wrote:pi-th root of 2 (2^(1/pi))
I'm sure there will be some of you who get the reference
2^?
Re: 2^?
That's obviously not so. A definition of a number that applies to two numbers cannot reasonably be called a definition, can it? A definition can't be ambiguous like that. That is a property of i, not a definition of it.i is defined as follows:
i^2 = -1
i is the complex number (0,1). Simple.
Re: 2^?
The property i^2 = -1 does in fact completely define i, as long as you don't read things into it that aren't there (such as "the solution of the equation i^2 = -1", or "the complex number with the property i^2 = -1", or "every number that has the property i^2 = -1"). The fact that the introduction of i also implies another number with the same properties, does not make the definition of i invalid. The statement "i is the complex number (0,1)" follows from the definition of complex numbers, so if we redefine i by substituting -i, i is still equal to the complex number (0,1), and nothing changes.iansjack wrote:That's obviously not so. A definition of a number that applies to two numbers cannot reasonably be called a definition, can it? A definition can't be ambiguous like that. That is a property of i, not a definition of it.i is defined as follows:
i^2 = -1
i is the complex number (0,1). Simple.
Re: 2^?
iansjack wrote:That's not narrowing it down very much.CWood wrote:pi-th root of 2 (2^(1/pi))
- XKCD 1047 (Approximations)if you ever find yourself raising log(anything)^e or taking the pi-th root of anything, set down the marker and back away from the whiteboard; something has gone horribly wrong.
Re: 2^?
I'm sorry, but you are still incorrect. You are confusing a property of a number with something that uniquely defines it. You might as well define 3 by saying it is a prime factor of 12. That is certainly a property of 3, but it doesn't define it.Gigasoft wrote:The property i^2 = -1 does in fact completely define i, as long as you don't read things into it that aren't there (such as "the solution of the equation i^2 = -1", or "the complex number with the property i^2 = -1", or "every number that has the property i^2 = -1"). The fact that the introduction of i also implies another number with the same properties, does not make the definition of i invalid. The statement "i is the complex number (0,1)" follows from the definition of complex numbers, so if we redefine i by substituting -i, i is still equal to the complex number (0,1), and nothing changes.iansjack wrote:That's obviously not so. A definition of a number that applies to two numbers cannot reasonably be called a definition, can it? A definition can't be ambiguous like that. That is a property of i, not a definition of it.i is defined as follows:
i^2 = -1
i is the complex number (0,1). Simple.
Mathematicians define i as being the tuple (0, 1) in the complex plane - at least that's the way it was when I was doing my thesis in Complex Analysis.
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Re: 2^?
Although I rarely rely on wikipedia when talking about math, I want to quote it here, as it is consistent with what I was taught at uni:iansjack wrote:I'm sorry, but you are still incorrect. You are confusing a property of a number with something that uniquely defines it. You might as well define 3 by saying it is a prime factor of 12. That is certainly a property of 3, but it doesn't define it.Gigasoft wrote:The property i^2 = -1 does in fact completely define i, as long as you don't read things into it that aren't there (such as "the solution of the equation i^2 = -1", or "the complex number with the property i^2 = -1", or "every number that has the property i^2 = -1"). The fact that the introduction of i also implies another number with the same properties, does not make the definition of i invalid. The statement "i is the complex number (0,1)" follows from the definition of complex numbers, so if we redefine i by substituting -i, i is still equal to the complex number (0,1), and nothing changes.iansjack wrote:That's obviously not so. A definition of a number that applies to two numbers cannot reasonably be called a definition, can it? A definition can't be ambiguous like that. That is a property of i, not a definition of it.
i is the complex number (0,1). Simple.
Mathematicians define i as being the tuple (0, 1) in the complex plane - at least that's the way it was when I was doing my thesis in Complex Analysis.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imaginary_unit#DefinitionThe imaginary number i is defined solely by the property that its square is −1:
i^2 = -1
With i defined this way, it follows directly from algebra that i and −i are both square roots of −1.
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Re: 2^?
Are you talking about (log(anything))^e or log((anything)^e).if you ever find yourself raising log(anything)^e or taking the pi-th root of anything, set down the marker and back away from the whiteboard; something has gone horribly wrong.
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