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lol what language is mykernelspace.com? Chinese?

btw Can I ask a stupid question? Is there any way to get .org domains for free?

Oh, and has anybody a good tutorial on how to use ELF files in my own OS? I still have my problems with that...
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darkinsanity wrote:Oh, and has anybody a good tutorial on how to use ELF files in my own OS? I still have my problems with that...
You can get all the required information from here: http://www.skyfree.org/linux/references/ELF_Format.pdf
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wow, thx. I didn´t see that before. Seems to be very helpfull :)
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btw Can I ask a stupid question? Is there any way to get .org domains for free?
No. Why would people give away top-level domains for free?
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JamesM wrote:
btw Can I ask a stupid question? Is there any way to get .org domains for free?
No. Why would people give away top-level domains for free?
maybe if you were curing aids not-for-profit, then you could get a donation of a domain lol
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i think there is advantage and disadvantage to have partner in your project.

the advantage: build a very large software, with various of creative people :roll:

but if your partner lazy or silly this is disadvantage :evil:
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i586coder wrote:but if your partner lazy or silly this is disadvantage :evil:
Quoted for truth.

Still, I get the idea that not everybody realizes the "partner" thing works in two ways, which has in extreme cases resulted in a flamefest when one of the persons in question is taking a trip down the list of beginner mistakes.

Partnership requires both people to be good partners to one another.
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And the issue is that unless your project is good, you're not going to get anyone who knows what they're doing to help you, unless you have programmer friends. And my only friend who is interested and can also program well is almost impossible to get a hold of.

So I guess the point is: partner programming is good, but only if you can get a good partner, which is impractical.
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Hi, Ican be of assistance if you wish. I have experience writing PCI code among other things...
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NickJohnson wrote:So I guess the point is: partner programming is good, but only if you can get a good partner, which is impractical.
Incorrect, in my opinion.

There are 4 possible ways of pairing:
  • You're both awesome: Good code, good times. This is pretty obvious.
  • You're both horrible: You may not get much better, but you'll get at least a little bit better, by discussing the pros and cons of what you're doing with each other. Nobody will have a 'good' answer, but you'll at least be getting into those kinds of dialogues on a regular basis.
  • You're horrible, they're awesome: You learn a lot about programming. They show you where you go wrong, and you help them catch simple mistakes.
  • You're awesome, they're horrible: You teach them a lot about programming. They manage to keep you on your toes by asking questions about everything, and you're forced to justify your (obviously) superior ideas.

In all 4 of these situations, everyone wins. The "both horrible" option is far from optimal, but in any case, it's better than working alone.

The key to successful peer programming is the back and forth dialogue about everything. Now, as it so happens, Wilkie and I fall under case 1 of the 4 above, so I could be slightly biased, but I still feel that there are enormous benefits to be gained from peer programming.
Combuster wrote:Partnership requires both people to be good partners to one another.
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Thanks for all the posts
and... still looking for members for my dev-team.
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GeniusCobyWalker wrote:Thanks for all the posts
and... still looking for members for my dev-team.
i would, IF it weren't for the fact I'm working on ReactOS and SauOS.
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You know, some of my (very) early stuff is still sorta tutorial-based, would you mind discussing the option to merge your kernel's code with mine? I've implemented paging and I'm working on threading, I also have the beginnings of a VFS, an in-memory file system, and mouse and keyboard drivers. My kernel will be, eh, unique, so my offer might not interest you, but if it does we can discuss it further.
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i586coder wrote:but if your partner lazy or silly this is disadvantage :evil:
I also think there is a disadvantage of them not agreeing with your Ideas, and steeling the source midway through.
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