New OS

Combuster · Post by **Combuster** » Mon Jun 02, 2008 2:06 pm

You should read Beginner Mistakes and Getting Started, as a lot seems to apply to you.

suthers · Post by **suthers** » Mon Jun 02, 2008 2:27 pm

We don't offer the service you need, or the programming language you want? To aid our continuous development, we will learn any language, or make/buy any templates/software you need! At NO extra charge!!

From SphinCorp's website.
I'm sorry but WTF, seriously, do you even know what that could imply, as well as you CANNOT, I repeat CANNOT learn enough off a programming language to write a good program within the times needed by any company.
Jules

SphinCorp · Post by **SphinCorp** » Mon Jun 02, 2008 2:29 pm

sigh... I'm going to remove that link now and hide under my bed.

01000101 · Post by **01000101** » Mon Jun 02, 2008 2:35 pm

no, you should stop posting -> create a better website -> lose the high-level OS design thoughts -> design a bootloader+kernel -> then resume posting. =) much more productive than hiding under a bed.

suthers · Post by **suthers** » Mon Jun 02, 2008 2:36 pm

Wow, we didn't mean to discourage you or frighten you or anything, its just that you seem to be wanting to make something that we all work our asses of to make and seem to think its going to be dead easy and also there is some doubt whether you actually have the skills necessary.
Seriously, this time asking kindly, what language did you plan to code your OS in?
Please don't be discouraged, when you get into to it OSdev is quite fun (In its own special way, hehehehe).
I'm really sorry for being so aggressive about it, its just the way that you say it seems to say that any idiot can do what we do as a hobby....
Also do read the links that Dex supplied....
Jules
edit: sorry, missed 'E''s (sorry its easier to write) post, but I entirely agree with what he says...

SphinCorp · Post by **SphinCorp** » Mon Jun 02, 2008 2:49 pm

I thought the kernel would be C, bootloader (as usual) in asm. I'm a generalist, and get sidetracked alot...

and as for suther's question:

Can I ask have you even written a single line of code for your OS yet?

no.

suthers · Post by **suthers** » Mon Jun 02, 2008 2:56 pm

I know the feeling, when I first had the idea of making an OS I had grand Ideas of 3D GUIs, linux, mac and windows binary compatibility (funny) and God knows what else, if you think you were bad, hehehe, but thankfully those had evaporated by the time I got here...
Well start coding then, if you need any help don't hesitate to post and as long as the question is intelligent, well asked and you've done enough of your own research before asking it, I'm sure somebody will answer it.
Good luck on your coding,

Jules

P.S. Just out of interest, what is AutoRunner written in?
edit:
P.P.S I recommend you remove this claim from your website:

We don't offer the service you need, or the programming language you want? To aid our continuous development, we will learn any language, or make/buy any templates/software you need! At NO extra charge!!

I really doubt that you'll be able to uphold that claim when it comes to it...

SphinCorp · Post by **SphinCorp** » Mon Jun 02, 2008 3:01 pm

Originally, it was just a simple vbscript I wrote for when I burned CDs... Now It's vb.net 2005

suthers · Post by **suthers** » Mon Jun 02, 2008 3:03 pm

Aha, I was write, I smell BASIC, rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
(sorry despise the language)
Can you code in C or assembly (as there the languages your planning to code your OS in? (No offense ment, just a question...))

Jules

SphinCorp · Post by **SphinCorp** » Mon Jun 02, 2008 3:06 pm

sort of? I know all on the assembly page of pickatutorial.com, and I like C++ alot... I thought c would be similler.

SphinCorp · Post by **SphinCorp** » Mon Jun 02, 2008 3:08 pm

Btw, 01000101, what does your name (69) mean anyway? Is it a reference to the ASCII (E), or is it random...?

suthers · Post by **suthers** » Mon Jun 02, 2008 3:14 pm

Yah I learned C++, first and their similar enough to catch on without really doing any learning anything, using c++ is a bit more difficult to use in a kernel because you need to write run time code for new, delete, throw, try, etc..., but it's doable (personally I chose not to...) and you might want to learn a bit more assembler, but you can pick it up as you go along.
I suggests you start here:
http://www.osdever.net/tutorials.php?cat=0&sort=1
Its a good place, have you definitely decided to make your own bootloader (I did so because I don't like using other people's code, but it also gives you more control...)?
Remember though don't hesitate to ask.
Jules

edit: sorry forgot to say, you'll probably want a firm grasp of C, first, asm is simple enough to not have to know the complexities at first and learn as you go along from the tutorials (I did and now my asm isn't to bad, though I did do a few tutorials eventually, because I was getting lost to often)

01000101 · Post by **01000101** » Mon Jun 02, 2008 3:19 pm

It stands for both 'E' and 69. E for Ecstasy & 69 for ... 69. lol.

suthers · Post by **suthers** » Mon Jun 02, 2008 3:19 pm

By the way you do realize you have to get phpBB's permission to use their artwork/work off any kind in a commercial setting?

Jules

suthers · Post by **suthers** » Mon Jun 02, 2008 3:37 pm

I don't have a problem with AutoRunner anymore, just needed to install the dotnet framework, sorry my fault

(Its not something I use very often...)
Jules