Review: Ubuntu 8.04 BETA

binutils · Post by **binutils** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 7:15 pm

01000101 wrote:I've never used Gentoo

i second, LFS64(pure64 lfs except grub) is fastest linux distro, IME.

AdHawk · Post by **AdHawk** » Sat Apr 12, 2008 10:28 pm

White-spirit wrote:Gentoo ?

Of course. Unless you've done a Stage 1 install of Gentoo, you really haven't used Linux.

I really prefer Slackware though, or for those of you with amd64/x86_64 computers bluewhite64.

xyzzy · Post by **xyzzy** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 12:46 am

01000101 wrote:don't forget slow.

After using Fedora 9 on the same box as the ubuntu beta, I can honestly say that there is a HUGE speed increase when using ubuntu. I don't know exactly why, but boot times and general execution times dropped dramatically in ubuntu.

I don't really LOVE the F9, but the F8 was ok.

I've never found Fedora to be slow. I've been using Fedora since F7, never had any trouble with it, and I've always found Ubuntu to be slower.

Zacariaz · Post by **Zacariaz** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 6:57 am

Of course LFS64 is the way to go if you really wanna go somewhere, but how the heck am I suposed to do a "Linux From Scratch"? I mean, sure, I'm not stupid or anything, but my experience with linux is somewhat... Limited.

nekros · Post by **nekros** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 7:20 am

I tried to upgrade to from gutsy ,but the graphics configuration became messed up and I could not get the NVIDIA driver to work. I am now switching to Kubuntu as I like kde better than Gnome.

binutils · Post by **binutils** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 9:26 am

Zacariaz wrote:Of course LFS64 is the way to go if you really wanna go somewhere, but how the heck am I suposed to do a "Linux From Scratch"? I mean, sure, I'm not stupid or anything, but my experience with linux is somewhat... Limited.

Limited linux knowledge shall be melt ice fast, and you will taste the coolness.
no big deal at all, really.

Zacariaz · Post by **Zacariaz** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 10:59 am

Well, I have actually ready some of the LFS material and to me it doesn't seem like it would happen in any near future.

Also, what do you mean by:

binutils wrote:Limited linux knowledge shall be melt ice fast...

AdHawk · Post by **AdHawk** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 11:10 am

I really wouldn't bother with LFS unless you needed some intense kernel customization. It's much easier to use a minimalistic Disto and just add/compile what you need for it, possibly compile and patch a new kernel if you're feeling ambitious.

You really wont feel a speed difference on LFS and unless you have a personally made kernel patch to apply it's really not worth it. Plus you'll probably want a nice free time where you can leave your computer idle for a while as it compiles, after all it's gonna take a LONG time to compile.

Zacariaz · Post by **Zacariaz** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 11:49 am

Though it might come as a surprise, I am a perctionist and minimalist, thus LFS is very appealing to me, so if the generel oppinion is that someone with limited knowledge, like me, can actually do this, I will, however I do need a guide/tutorial/walkthrough or something, cause, as I said ealier, the LFS documentation is not "easy reading" for me.

Combuster · Post by **Combuster** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 2:03 pm

Zacariaz wrote:I do need a guide/tutorial/walkthrough or something, cause, as I said ealier, the LFS documentation is not "easy reading" for me.

A quick read of the first chapters shows that the manual is pretty much a walkthrough already. If you can't follow it, I really wonder how obvious a guide must be.

Gentoo is down to earth as well, but less work, and has a manual of excellent quality. I suggest you experiment with that first. If that's still too difficult, well, distros like xandros and ubuntu exist for a reason

Zacariaz · Post by **Zacariaz** » Sun Apr 13, 2008 3:54 pm

Combuster wrote:
Zacariaz wrote:I do need a guide/tutorial/walkthrough or something, cause, as I said ealier, the LFS documentation is not "easy reading" for me.
A quick read of the first chapters shows that the manual is pretty much a walkthrough already. If you can't follow it, I really wonder how obvious a guide must be.

Maybe they have improved it since last time. I would feel really bad if it is as easy as you suggest, but I still are not able to do it.

The is also the of chance that we are talking about different docs, but I doubt it.