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nekros · Post by **nekros** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 10:03 am

I am not sure if this should be here but, I think a list of things that noobs should do should be on the main page. Gotta go!

AJ · Post by AJ » Fri Mar 14, 2008 10:53 am

Hi,

You mean like the sticky topic at the top of the forum and the prominent "Getting Started" link on the main wiki page?

Cheers,
Adam

nekros · Post by **nekros** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 3:24 pm

Yeah, the problem is no one reads it. The first thing you see when you go to OSdev.org is that page.

01000101 · Post by **01000101** » Sat Mar 15, 2008 6:24 am

I agree.
a forum posting does not force the noob to go to it. they probably dont even know it exists till after they post something noobish.

Paw · Post by **Paw** » Sat Mar 15, 2008 7:00 am

I think the annoying kind of noobs is reaching the forum via Google and they don't care about any front-pages and introductory information anyway.

I basically don't see any sensible way of getting rid of this problem, because the annoyance is driven by the noob's ignorance in terms of Internet and forum usage.
Some of them, especially those with very little experience in (large scale) programming and with a lack of formal or proper self-education, also expect to be spoon-fed with information in a way they can grasp.

The worst kind of them gets childishly angry when being criticised for their absurd queries, leading to my assumption that most of them are either still children or adults with a lack of social skills. Bad English skills are a factor as well.

As a word of advice for the bugging noobs: You cannot expect to gain full knowledge of advanced programming, project design and management, good coding style and additionally operating systems, in just a day.

This involves a long-term process, which has been estimated to at least 10 years by experienced programmers and researchers, who do programming for a living. And in my own experience, I have to fully agree on this estimate.