Retro icons

inflater · Post by **inflater** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 11:24 am

Does anybody know about a big collection of 16-color/256-color icons from Windows 95 era? I kinda like it...

eddyb · Post by **eddyb** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 3:47 am

there was a site with a big icon collection, but i'm not remember the name...

Zacariaz · Post by **Zacariaz** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 3:52 am

Damn that you profile image is anoying inflater

AJ · Post by AJ » Thu Mar 13, 2008 3:54 am

Hi,

Here you go: http://www.guidebookgallery.org/icons

This was posted a while ago on the forums and I bookmarked it - forget who originally supplied the link.

Cheers,
Adam

inflater · Post by **inflater** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 10:49 am

Yeah, that's what Ie been looking for, thanks!

Zacariaz wrote:Damn that you profile image is anoying inflater

You dislike the Mouth Man?

AJ · Post by AJ » Thu Mar 13, 2008 10:52 am

Sorry - I agree. It's really annoying

nekros · Post by **nekros** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 1:08 pm

AJ wrote:Sorry - I agree. It's really annoying

inx · Post by **inx** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 2:28 pm

Damn that you profile image is anoying inflater

*shrug* I just thought it was amusing.

inx · Post by **inx** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 2:49 pm

Also, a question to anyone who has some insight on the US legal system (since they seem to try their hardest to make you unsure of what IS legal..): Do you think there would be any legal ramifications in, say, using the old Lisa/MacOS 6.x icons in my GUI once I get to that point(which is a long way off. =p)? I would think it would be covered under non-commercial use, but better safe than sorry any more...

jerryleecooper · Post by **jerryleecooper** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 3:27 pm

WARNING, THE COMMENT THEREING IS FOR AMUSEMENT PURPOSE ONLY
NO GUARANTEE, ETC, AND NO CLAIM IS MADE ABOUT ITS CONTENT VERATICITY IS MADE
THERE's LOT OF PEOPLE ON THE INTERNET, SOME OF THEM WILL PRETEND TO KNOW EVERYTHING, SO USE AT YOUR OWN RISK

It can be considered a satire if you make your system a satire or a parody or the original Lisa Mac SYstem 6 software.
Charging money or not for it is not how companies, or lawyers would judge infrigement imo. It's more about the respect that you expect others about your creation. If you make it opensource giving everyone rights apple didnt even grant you with its icons, then you will have problems. But if you just give it to the public domain do whatever you want with it, then the risk that some lawyer to contact you will be lessened.
It's about intellectual property and the power you gain from creating something new from something old. If you gain nothing (just no monetary gain is not a good scale to judge it) and no one is losing anything by no rich being created or no rich being diverted, than there's no problem I think;

Alboin · Post by **Alboin** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 3:49 pm

inx wrote:Also, a question to anyone who has some insight on the US legal system (since they seem to try their hardest to make you unsure of what IS legal..): Do you think there would be any legal ramifications in, say, using the old Lisa/MacOS 6.x icons in my GUI once I get to that point(which is a long way off. =p)? I would think it would be covered under non-commercial use, but better safe than sorry any more...

I am not a lawyer. (THIS IS NOT LEGAL ADVICE, AMUSEMENT ONLY, ETC.)

The icons are copyrighted, you do not have Apple's permission, thus you can not use them for any purpose. AFAIK, there is no such thing as 'non-commercial use'.

Make your own.

jerryleecooper · Post by **jerryleecooper** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 6:29 pm

It's apple's icons, but if, for example, I would want to make a fake OSm "in hommage" of system 6 for example, with the same menubar, the same window frames, etc. then it would be considered, I guess, as a satire, a parody, and the copied icons will just be a part of the parodied OS.
But of course making an all original OS and using the system 6's icons because they're pretty is another thing alltogueter.
Copyright is not always the black or white thing the IP lords want us to believe.
As a matter of fact, Menuet os used some icons from the old macos classic, the icon from applescript I think, and they didnt have problems, didnt they?

inx · Post by **inx** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 8:01 pm

All right, thank you both. I knew there were the copyright issues, I just didn't know if perhaps the copyright had expired on something Apple hasn't used in 15+ years. IMHO it's a shame that things that have become defunct and unsupported by their manufactures become lost because the parent company doesn't use it any more and won't allow anybody else. =S Every very great once in a while, you can get a company to release its abandonware into the public domain (i.e. One Must Fall: 2097 became freeware after OMF Battlegrounds was released.), but unfortunately, it's an exception rather than the rule.

jerryleecooper · Post by **jerryleecooper** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 8:29 pm

YOu can make an OS with apple''s icons, but you'll need to distribute it on piratebay if you want people to use it. it's how it works theres days.
Bye the way, SkyOS is using Crystal icons the same kde uses, it's legal they have the permission to, but still, some pepople are causeing them trouble. So icons have a karma of their own.

inx · Post by **inx** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 12:48 am

*nod* I'd probably have less trouble with that iconset over SkyOS.. My system is under a BSD license rather than closed commercial. The reason I was hoping for an older set was that I'm going to support grayscale modes in my display server, and have them be the default on any hardware that can't support more than 8-bit colourdepth, I don't like the look of older X11 icons or old Windows icons, and I'm not sure how well the newer 'prettified' icons would dither. Thank you for reminding me of the Crystal icons, though. LGPL would work just fine for general purpose.