should we create an OS development magazine?

01000101 · Post by **01000101** » Sat Mar 01, 2008 9:16 pm

reason being?

SpooK · Post by **SpooK** » Sat Mar 01, 2008 10:18 pm

01000101 wrote:reason being?

You wouldn't have to worry about getting a proprietary knock-off to work. With exception to things like fork() and other minor inconsistencies, you can write clean PHP code that can be expected to run the same no matter what the platform is. Granted that if you write dirty code in PHP 3 or 4, you may have issues in PHP 5.

I've dealt with ASP/.Net, PHP, JSP, IIS, Apache/Tomcat, Windows, BSD, Linux, etc... and together in their respective combinations. The weakest link amongst those mentioned is... *drum roll*... ASP!!!

It is not because PHP is yet another example of "the open-source advantage", I honestly couldn't care less about that, but rather it is a stronger and more consistent language. Its consistency lends toward being easier to learn.

ASP/.Net relies on COM/.Net overhead, and really was meant for Windows/IIS. PHP sits directly on the Zend engine, and happily runs on many platforms. I guess you could say that Zend knows what they are doing with their engine, and Microsoft knows what they are selling with their ASP/.Net stuff. Bottom line, PHP is more widely deployable and is faster in most cases, even on Windows.

As for coding style, you could say ASP is like VB for the web, and PHP is like C/C++ for the web. As such, this is personal taste and could very well influence your decision... so that is an aside.

I don't really want this to turn into a flame-war or pissing match. I also wish to convey that I am not some sort of open-source or anti-Microsoft zealot. I just wish to convey my experiences and how they could help alleviate the overhead in getting your website working *and* keeping it working... take it as you will

B.E · Post by **B.E** » Sat Mar 01, 2008 11:00 pm

I can do a website in PHP (a non-monopolistic non-proprietary) if you want. I work with it every day.

JackScott · Post by **JackScott** » Sun Mar 02, 2008 12:50 am

I would appreciate not having to set up Mono on the web server... basically, it's not much fun. If somebody wants to work on the website, PM 01000101 or me and we'll work something out. A team (one on look, one on function) may work well.

01000101 · Post by **01000101** » Sun Mar 02, 2008 12:27 pm

help is deffinately appreciated, as I have told one other offer.

Since it seems that PHP is desired here, I have no problem with switching it over. I'm pretty good at PHP as well, so its not an issue with that.

When I get back home, I will start re-doing the upload bits in PHP.

B.E · Post by **B.E** » Sun Mar 02, 2008 3:38 pm

Already converted the upload page.

Zacariaz · Post by **Zacariaz** » Sun Mar 02, 2008 9:10 pm

I might be interested in writing a small article, however before i start my work (and hopefully finish it) i would like to know how it would be prefered delivered. We have allready discused this a bit, but i don't think we ever reached a conclusion.

JackScott · Post by **JackScott** » Sun Mar 02, 2008 9:21 pm

Text as .doc, .html, .odf, .rtf, or .txt (preference in that order, .doc highest). Images as .png or .jpg with high resolution. Can be uploaded via the website (www.system-call.org) or emailed to me (details below). Uploaded is probably best.

Minimum length really is about 500 words. Keep it semi-informal, but grammar and spelling should be good. As for content, anything goes, as long as it's in some way related to computer science. As a first edition, we can't be too picky, and we can choose a more specific direction later, based on feedback.

01000101 · Post by **01000101** » Sun Mar 02, 2008 9:24 pm

awesome, thanks for the convert.
just at a glace at the source, why did you keep the c# stuff?

should a poll be initiated for the article upload type?
seems to be quite a split over it.

I personally like PDFs.

JackScott · Post by **JackScott** » Sun Mar 02, 2008 9:28 pm

You can't edit PDFs. It's as simple as that. You can rip the text and images out of them, but it's more work than just getting the raw text that the author worked with anyway.

It's not going to matter... it all goes into the same document in the page layout software, anyway.

Alboin · Post by **Alboin** » Sun Mar 02, 2008 9:46 pm

Yayyak wrote:As for content, anything goes, as long as it's in some way related to computer science.

It must also be clearly and obviously legal. (No gray area stuff here.)

B.E · Post by **B.E** » Sun Mar 02, 2008 10:17 pm

01000101 wrote: just at a glace at the source, why did you keep the c# stuff?

I did?

Edit:

We need to work out a release target date. and release schedule.

jerryleecooper · Post by **jerryleecooper** » Sun Mar 02, 2008 10:33 pm

Alboin wrote:
Yayyak wrote:As for content, anything goes, as long as it's in some way related to computer science.
It must also be clearly and obviously legal. (No gray area stuff here.)

YOu mean, nothing breaching any NDA/patents?

JackScott · Post by **JackScott** » Sun Mar 02, 2008 11:06 pm

NDA/Patents/Copyright infringement.
Cracking, please no.

Use common sense. If we won't publish it, don't bother writing it.

Dex · Post by **Dex** » Mon Mar 03, 2008 10:09 am

Nice work on the site, i also think a article deadline would be a good thing to get articles in on time, if you do not give a deadline, people leave it to the last min and usually leave it too late.