[OS Dev Series] - New Website

neon · Post by **neon** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 1:59 am

Hello everyone,

We have had several problems with the sitesled web hosting servers.

We decided to create a new, better web site to host the OS Development Series at. We have plans to expand the site, and make it more accessible for resources and content.

We also plan on creating a Wiki, containing information for a wide variety of topics, including a Wikified version of the OS Development Series.

Here are the current URLs that may be used to access the site:

http://www.brokenthorn.com
http://brokenthorn.com

We apologize for the recent inconvenience with the web site, and we hope this will become a better resource.

Please tell me if there are any questions, comments, or suggestions

Thank you,

~Mike ();

Candy · Post by **Candy** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 3:37 am

Not Found

The requested URL /OSDevIndex.html was not found on this server.

Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.

You might want to fix that.

neon · Post by **neon** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 3:50 am

Hello,

I know of that problem. That problem is only happening because we have not re-uploaded the other pages of the website yet.

We plan to do this very soon (It should be tomorrow

)

01000101 · Post by **01000101** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 10:58 am

yeah, the 404 is on everylink except the forums one.
you also might want to clean up the dual-scrollbar thing going on.

some advice (if you're using css) is to turn the overflow to 'overflow:none' or auto.

neon · Post by **neon** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 1:47 pm

you also might want to clean up the dual-scrollbar thing going on.

That seems to only do that on IE... Im not sure whats causing it though...

Candy · Post by **Candy** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 2:03 pm

neon wrote:
you also might want to clean up the dual-scrollbar thing going on.
That seems to only do that on IE... Im not sure whats causing it though...

Firefox on Linux here, same thing

neon · Post by **neon** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 2:57 pm

Never mind my previous post. (I typed it wrong, sorry about that

)

That "double scrollbar" thing seems to only appear in firefox, not IE.

For me, IE fails to render some of the objects sometimes (Or render objects that are not there... o.0)

Does anyone else have the above problems?

The site does use CSS, cant seem to find the problem though. Then again, I might just reformat the site's layout and take the ugly iframe out. Do you think this would be a good idea?

Brynet-Inc · Post by **Brynet-Inc** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 4:06 pm

Frames (all) are kinds of evil.. it was a bad idea from the beginning

(Take a hint Candy! )

EDIT: I'm clearly illiterate..

SpooK · Post by **SpooK** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 4:58 pm

Brynet-Inc wrote:Frames are kinds of evil.. it was a bad idea from the beginning

(Take a hint Candy! )

Agreed. DIVs and TABLEs are a much better approach.

Beyond that, your site fails w3c validation... which could help fix some of those display issues

Zacariaz · Post by **Zacariaz** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 5:56 pm

I can see from your stylessheet that you have "overflow:none" in body {}, you should but it in html {} instead. allso i would suggest that you that you change your doctype to strict.

You allso have some <p> tags that doesnt make sence.

Other that that, it seems fine.

neon · Post by **neon** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 6:17 pm

Thanks for the responses

Im currently in the process of reformatting the layout right now. I moved the menu to the top of the page, and added a little border to it (So it looks better).

I want to make all of the content display under the main menu.

Beyond that, your site fails w3c validation... which could help fix some of those display issues

I figured that it would fail. Currently I am trying to get the main site working properly first, then worry about sticking with proper standards

I will see if I can fix that now though.

I can see from your stylessheet that you have "overflow:none" in body {}, you should but it in html {} instead. allso i would suggest that you that you change your doctype to strict.

I changed the doctype back to strict (It was previously).
I also put the overflow element inside of the html section as well.

On another question, what do you think of the new layout?

Thank you all for your feedback

neon · Post by **neon** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 7:28 pm

I just completed redesigning the web site.

I moved the menu ontop, and cleaned it up a little to make it easier to navigate. I also completely took out the iframe, and resolved the previous problems with the site.

It is now follows valid CSS and XHTML Transitional.

Please tell me what you think of it

The only current problem is most links still do not work. I am going to be working on them soon, and upload them very soon.

Brynet-Inc · Post by **Brynet-Inc** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 8:24 pm

No offence, but you "really" need to learn how to properly use the <p> tags..

01000101 · Post by **01000101** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 8:32 pm

I agree with whoever above me suggested the usage of DIV's. DIVs are your FRIEND! =)

to contain messes and other problems with IFRAMEs, I suggest using then inside of a DIV. use the DIV as a placeholder for the IFRAME so if for somereason the frame goes squirrly it doesnt mess up the rest of the page that bad. Also the DIVs will keep (for the most part) things stable throughout different OS's through the usage of size percentages instead of pixelized positioning.

You also might have wanted to delay the 'opening' of the website for a few more days so you could have added some links that worked and such.

I tried to register with the forums and got a "You did not enter a valid security thing" (or something along those lines haha). But when I looked through the registration form, there was no security image to look upon.

Also, forgive me if I am speaking for the wrong language, but the words members and groupes are spelled wrong, but once again, forgive me if I am correcting spelling for the wrong dialect lol.

oh, btw, I tested it on both firefox and konqueror in KUbuntu 7.01 and IE7 in WinXPpro all with the same results.

neon · Post by **neon** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 9:50 pm

I know about the <p> tags

I'll need to fix that.

There is no iframe at all in the site - I took it completely out.

Most of the links are also active as well.

I tried to register with the forums and got a "You did not enter a valid security thing" (or something along those lines haha).

This?:

The confirmation code you entered was incorrect

I am going to have to look into that...

It seems to work well in both IE and firefox. Please tell me if there are any problems still.

Thanks again for your feedback