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Hi,

I am trying to forfill my dream, of making a OS, not a little Hello Worl OS but a project that will take time. I want to creat an OS betta than any OS you have ever seen, But I can't do it my self and i was wondering if anyone wants to help build this OS, Its sorta like a linux project, it will be free, and open source. I don't have a name for it or a name for the "Company" that will make it (e.g. Microsoft). All i am looking at right now is for help people to join The "Dev" Team, that is run by the people, not by one person, If you would like to help and you Know C++,C,ASM,HTML,Java,Perl or any programmers that know what there doing can help in some way.
Just E-mial Me @ [email protected]

in the e-mail Have the following:

First Name:
Age:
Country:
Skills:
E-mail:

In the Subject write OSDev or something like that so I don't delete your e-mail with out reading it...

This will be a non Profit Project Unless we become good enoght to sell in store

Its worth a Try doing it, you may think it is impossible but if people work togeather everything is doable.

Jankins wrote: But I can't do it my self and i was wondering if anyone wants to help build this OS, Its sorta like a linux project, it will be free, and open source. I don't have a name for it or a name for the "Company" that will make it (e.g. Microsoft). All i am looking at right now is for help people to join The "Dev" Team, that is run by the people, not by one person, If you would like to help and you Know C++,C,ASM,HTML,Java,Perl or any programmers that know what there doing can help in some way.

Think the other way around. Don't ask what programmers can join your project, ask what projects you can join as a programmer. There are enough new projects with each a minor objective difference with the others, that it's very unlikely that you actually don't match ideas with at least SOMEONE here.

Just E-mial Me @ [email protected]

hotmail != email... but you ask for emials so that should be ok

hotmail != email

So what do you call it.... Webmail?
Same **** diffrent names...

you've read "dreamcatcher" from stephen king? It's worth some hours in a soft chair in front of the chimney *gg*

(same **** different day. or in dudditsese: ai ih, iffun'ay)

Jankins wrote: I want to creat an OS betta than any OS you have ever seen...

We all want that, in our way... however, the concepts of "better" usually differ widely.

But I can't do it my self and i was wondering if anyone wants to help build this OS...

We all wonder, in our way...

All i am looking at right now is for help people to join The "Dev" Team, that is run by the people, not by one person...

Hint: Doesn't work. Without one person - or a tight group of persons - taking the lead, including making the inconvenient decisions, you won't go anywhere.

If you would like to help and you Know C++,C,ASM,HTML,Java,Perl or any programmers that know what there doing can help in some way...

I think everyone here knows some, but what makes you think anyone would send 'em your way, instead of recruiting them for his/her own project?

(Besides, HTML, Java, and Perl are somewhat "smelly" when it comes to "requirements for an OS programmer". )

in the e-mail Have the following:

...
Country:
...

Why does that matter?

This will be a non Profit Project Unless we become good enoght to sell in store

If you're going to use GPL, BSD or a similar license, you won't sell in the stores because everyone is allowed to copy & redistribute...

Its worth a Try doing it, you may think it is impossible but if people work togeather everything is doable.

If we would think so, we wouldn't be here.

i fear you'll hardly recruit anyone here ... we're *all* either dreamers (thus with or own dreams to roll) or newbies (thus without the skillz you require) here.

Another thing you should know is that it's against netiquette to post on a public forum an explicit request to get answers through private messages (either e-mail or e-mial or e-meow or whatever). Let your private coordinates and let the responders decide how they'll contact you.

that being said, you're welcome to share your dream with us (for instance in the 'OS design' or another brainstorming thread) ... and some of us will probably be proud if you import part of their code in your project -- provided that you respect the licensing method they decided (skipping initial ownership credit is the biggest mistake you could make here)

Solar will confirm you that Internet will hardly bring you a few supporters for ideas/concept/design, very little lines of code (except those you've been googling for), and usually a lot of people that will lose their time (and yours) in debating whether the 'ok' button should be on the left or right side of the dialogs ...

Confirmed. ::) ;D

(I wasted two perfectly good years trying to build a team. Now I'm back to doing it myself, and it even feels better. )

It's quite hard to ask people to spent their free time doing exactly what you want. Either they do something you want because it was what they were looking for, and you are happy with that, or you just let it fork your code...

The most reliable people for online projects are those who join freely, asking you how they may help. Building a real team is nearly impossible.

Most projects I participated in were successful thanks to a friendship born before the project itself.

PS: I do not participate anymore in open sources projects because I can't schedule my work anymore (because of the work that let me eat everyday )

In german language, there exists a winged word:

"Verlass dich auf andere und du bist verlassen."

means: you're left alone if you relie on others.

I'd rather do it on my own, do my own decisions and enjoy the work of my hands. I've lead one inefficient project group, then a second one - it didn't work out: too much talking, too less doing. I don't want others ask me what to do thrice a day. One time talk, then each one knows what to do - do it and then tell: ready, i reckon, next task is ... and set of doing it. but most ppl don't even grasp the breath of this approach: real teamwork, like cogs in a machine ... But out of speech's air alone, nothing can be done.

just my 2 cent ( not 'groschen' anymore ... )

ineo wrote: The most reliable people for online projects are those who join freely, asking you how they may help...

...being told, and vanishing again without a word. (I had a dozen or so people asking how to help in writing the Public Domain C Library. I told them to pick a header and start implementing... not a line of code to this day, with the noteable exception of Pete @ Therx...)

Most projects I participated in were successful thanks to a friendship born before the project itself.

The last two years, while being a severe failure project-wise, brought me three things:

* experience in setting up, and running, a server, including but not limited to a Subversion code repository and a PhpWiki;

* some scars to remember me of the lessons learned regarding building up a team of volunteers;

* the best friend I've had in quite a while, whom I knew nothing of but the Amiga.org forum nick when we started.

The best way to get people to help, Is to start the project,
When the basic's are done.
Then let people try it and if they have the same ideas as you and like what you have done, They will ask how they can contribute .
You can then decide to go it alone or build a team.

ASHLEY4.

ok
1: I am using a Hotmail Address, So what whats wrong with that?

2: Country is used so i know what your main Language is.

3: People Like it there way yes. It will be everyones Ideas rolled into one, not 2 people fighting ova one thing and sayin ok we will use ur idea and not urs...

4:Every one can say they made it cause it will be made togeather, from 1st building the kernel everyone will be able to edit it untill we have it Just Right, same with everything in this project.

5: If i start the project and hand it out, not everyones idea is in it, in other words it will be what I want not what YOU want.

Jankins wrote:2: Country is used so i know what your main Language is.

You could instead directly ask for "Preferred Language:"

Jankins wrote:3: People Like it there way yes. It will be everyones Ideas rolled into one, not 2 people fighting ova one thing and sayin ok we will use ur idea and not urs...

"Why don't we use a monolithic kernel, no a microkernel, how about an exokernel... I know, let's roll them all into one!" Seriously, you'll find many disputes impractical to "roll into one" (or at best, the resulting combination will be complete garbage).

Jankins wrote:4:Every one can say they made it cause it will be made togeather, from 1st building the kernel everyone will be able to edit it untill we have it Just Right, same with everything in this project.

The same could be said about any other OSS project.

Jankins wrote:5: If i start the project and hand it out, not everyones idea is in it, in other words it will be what I want not what YOU want.

The alternative would be vaporware, which does nothing to reassure potential developers that your project will actually get somewhere and that the time spent contributing to it will be worthwhile.

Heh...poor Jankins stumbled on one of the Deving "no-no's".

Please don't take the criticism personaly. We're just trying to prevent you from starting another dead-end project. You'll find it alot easier to develop at your own pace with your own ideas.

Solar wrote:

ineo wrote: The most reliable people for online projects are those who join freely, asking you how they may help...

...being told, and vanishing again without a word. (I had a dozen or so people asking how to help in writing the Public Domain C Library. I told them to pick a header and start implementing... not a line of code to this day, with the noteable exception of Pete @ Therx...)

*takes this personally*

Ok, I'll download it right now and dump it on my new laptop, will try to do something tonight. Problem is, you were planning on making a clib for quite some time, I don't even really know what's in there. On the other hand, I feel like a contributor not a developer.

Still, not nice to tell you I wanted to help and then not help. I'll make it up to you

As for the practical section, what DO you want in those headers? I don't have the spec, it's not for download @ ISO or something, don't have any books, what am I supposed to use as source for guidelines?