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What graphics card is good at VBE?

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 10:37 am
by nifanfa
Hello! i want to make my os run on real hardware. but sadly i can only get around 1fps but 600fps on virtual machine. so I'm wondering what graphics card is good At VBE.

and btw here's my OS
you can find it in github/nifanfa
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Re: What graphics card is good at VBE?

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 10:41 am
by nifanfa
It seems that older graphics cards are good at VBE. i noticed of ati rage xl 8mb. will it get higher fps?

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Re: What graphics card is good at VBE?

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 12:22 pm
by honeydatax
Say do you have a repository of you code :) wat is the address? Thanks?

Re: What graphics card is good at VBE?

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 12:39 pm
by Korona
There is no reason to increase the font size for your posts.

VBE is not inherently slow. Even modern cards still sometimes (but not always, i.e., not for all tranfers) use memory mapped VRAM to transfer data. If writes to the framebuffer are slow, you are probably not using write combining (WC). Look up WC in the Wiki and Intel manuals, and set it up properly.

Re: What graphics card is good at VBE?

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 5:27 pm
by Octocontrabass
In addition to WC, you should also make sure you're not reading from the framebuffer. Reading is usually much slower than writing.

Re: What graphics card is good at VBE?

Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2021 9:27 am
by nifanfa
Hi Octocontrabass

i didn't read from video memory. I'm using double buffering

Re: What graphics card is good at VBE?

Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2021 9:29 am
by nifanfa
honeydatax wrote:Say do you have a repository of you code :) wat is the address? Thanks?
you can find it in github/nifanfa

Re: What graphics card is good at VBE?

Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2021 9:30 am
by nifanfa
Octocontrabass wrote:In addition to WC, you should also make sure you're not reading from the framebuffer. Reading is usually much slower than writing.
Hi Octocontrabass

i didn't read from video memory. I'm using double buffering

Re: What graphics card is good at VBE?

Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2021 4:03 pm
by benjixu
nifanfa wrote:Hello! i want to make my os run on real hardware. but sadly i can only get around 1fps but 600fps on virtual machine. so I'm wondering what graphics card is good At VBE.

and btw here's my OS
you can find it in github/nifanfa
Image
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Re: What graphics card is good at VBE?

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 3:24 am
by rdos
You should avoid Intel platforms if you want high-performance VBE. You generally should also avoid new systems and go with systems that are a bit dated. Although, modern AMD systems work pretty well.

Re: What graphics card is good at VBE?

Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 3:04 am
by davmac314
rdos wrote:You should avoid Intel platforms if you want high-performance VBE. You generally should also avoid new systems and go with systems that are a bit dated. Although, modern AMD systems work pretty well.
Why is that (avoid Intel platforms)? And also why would "a bit dated" systems be faster?

Re: What graphics card is good at VBE?

Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 8:21 am
by Ethin
davmac314 wrote:
rdos wrote:You should avoid Intel platforms if you want high-performance VBE. You generally should also avoid new systems and go with systems that are a bit dated. Although, modern AMD systems work pretty well.
Why is that (avoid Intel platforms)? And also why would "a bit dated" systems be faster?
Confused about this as well. Considering that the Linux Intel GPU drivers are plenty fast, there's a high probability that your doing something wrong if they're slow. The dated hardware argument only makes sense in the context of "this might be easier to program". But I generally find the Intel GPU manuals incredibly confusing and disorganized, especially since they went "Hey lets break tradition and organize our GPU registers alphabetically and not by category/address like everybody else". (What's ironic about that is they also wrote the AHCI and HDA specifications and didn't do that.)

Re: What graphics card is good at VBE?

Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 9:43 am
by nifanfa
benjixu wrote:
nifanfa wrote:Hello! i want to make my os run on real hardware. but sadly i can only get around 1fps but 600fps on virtual machine. so I'm wondering what graphics card is good At VBE.

and btw here's my OS
you can find it in github/nifanfa
Image
哈哈哈,你在不在胡自成群里~
胡自成是谁???

Re: What graphics card is good at VBE?

Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 9:47 am
by nifanfa
um. I don't want to write a specified graphics card driver(that's is very difficult and it is not as compatible as VBE). and i just want a graphics card as fast as virtual machine.

Re: What graphics card is good at VBE?

Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 9:50 am
by nifanfa
i got 8fps on hd3000. and that's still pretty slow..