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Hello, I am curious, Linux is the only OS that is really a developers OS. But even it isnt really a xevelopers OS. I would like to make a OS, that you can make programs in every single language on one OS. Also, I would like ot make it where it doesant, need an emulator, to run diffrent programs or anything. You could make a VB program and then turn around and make a program for Linux. Im not sure if im being very clear, and if not just tell me and ill trey ot be clearer. If you would like ot help you may post here, or email me at [email protected]

Thank agina, and i hope to hear form yall soon.

How do you define developer OS?
I can code in basically any language on Windows, too. I just need to install a compiler/interpreter/whatever the language requires.

You know hwo Linux has free Dev tools included with it? Well, on it you can only make programs for Linux and windows(if you have a emulator). Well Im wanting to make one, where it is secure like Linux, Easy to use like Windows, and the GUI like MAC OS. On this OS you would be able to make a program for linux, and clos taht application, and start up your VB IDE and make a program for windows. The purpose of my OS, is to offer a good OS with the features of popular OSes. It will contain Linux's Dev Tools, along with Windows Dev Tools. If your wanting to make a Program for Linux in C++, but you also need to make a program in Visual Basic. Then instead of rebooting to a diffrent OS, or runing VMware. You can just close the Linux C++ Compiler and open the VB compiler. Im still not sure if im being clear, so just let me know. Also, I would like some help. Since MS wont allow you to distribute teh IDE's freely, I need help making brand new Compilers for all Windows Languages. Thank agian and I hope to hear from yall soon.

Have you got a stable kernel or anything that looks like an OS?

If it isn't so, stop thinking about reprogrammin any compilers and so on. It would take you a lot of time to implement the win lib and linux lib into one Os!
First you need a very very stable kernel!


Good luck!

Thank you blackcatcoder, As of now i have nothing. I am Learning C, ASM, and VB.NET. Now i dont know if its true, but i was told you can also make a OS in VB.NET? Posible. Thank for all your views and posts everybody, and I'm still lookign for help if your interetsed.

You want to make an OS that's API compatible with Linux, Win32 and OSX but you don't know C, ASM or VB.NET? Is your project schedule measured in decades?

Seriously, that's a major undertaking for the most skilled C and asm coder even if one were to only implement _a portion_ of _one_ OS. A project of that size would require 10s (100s!) of thousands of highly skilled developers. I hope you realize what you're in for!

--Jeff

its highly unlikely that you could do much with any form of basic (its not really designed for compiling to native code)

Since MS wont allow you to distribute teh IDE's freely

not quite sure what you mean here, but its prob wrong


you already can compile linux programs on windows (you just need a cross-compiler) -- and you can run them too if you recompile for an emulation environment like cygwin
you can run windows programs without recompiling on any OS that implements the winAPI (windows was originally designed with the goal of making programs easy to run on many different OSs, without even recompiling, by forbiding any APP from making syscalls)

Since MS wont allow you to distribute teh IDE's freely
<<<< What I mean there, is you cant put the Visual Basic or Visual C++ IDE's in the OS and give it out frely. Wouldnt that be stealing? And Also, yes I know what i'm in for. But it's a goal I've set and I plan to reach it. Thanks for yall's help.

not sure what you mean 'put the IDEs in the OS'

of course you can't give away someone elses product, that doesn't make any sence
but why would you want to?

if you mean you can't get the MS-IDE free then your wrong -- MS is giving it away free right now on their website

Well, I think, together with the "Linux has free dev tools included", you need to learn more to separate the operating system and the applications running on it. Well, as I guess you come more from the Linux world, popular Linux distributions don't really encourage this separation and at least FreeBSD doesn't seem to either.

The IDEs and the compiler are just ordinary applications like Word, OpenOffice, your Browser etc. No magic to be put into an operating system, just to be installed and work on one.

And the same (nearly at least) gcc that runs on Linux is downloadable for free for Windows, too. And there is cross compilation as it was pointed out and emulators, too. I think you want to implement some more emulators in a new os, don't you?

No, I want my OS to be able to run programs made for Linux of Windows without any type of emulator. I want it to contain the same features, of Linux and Windows. Example is in Linux some file extenison are .exe Linux wont always support those. Im not out to make the world best OS right now. I just want to make a little OS, and then move onto a DevelopersOS.

What you're describing is certainly *not* a "little OS."

In your attempt to create three OSs and merge them into one you'll have to deal with the various areas where each OS conflicts in theory and also triplicate various functionality (three different window managers, three different loadable library routines, three different graphics toolkits, etc, etc). And, of course, all three will have to somehow interact flawlessly with each other.

'tis a tall order. I wish you the best of luck. How's your C comming along?

--Jeff

My C is ok not the greatest iu can make noth9gn big yet, but im learning (Y) Thanks for all yall help

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