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I am trying to create a grub bootable floppy, but am stuck because everything I find needs losetup witch is on lunix only. here is one tutorial i looked at:
http://sig9.com/bochs-grub

After you do:

dd if=/dev/zero of=floppy.flp bs=512 count=2880

how do you add grub to the image and once grub is on it how do you put your kernel on it without messing up grub?

There is a tutorial on the wiki that covers building a GRUB floppy image (there may also be links to prebuilt images, iirc).

I consider mtools to be the easiest way to put files onto a FAT floppy/hd image. Just grab it's source and build it in Cygwin.

thank you