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This should really be wiki-fied.

It needs to be indexed properly as people searching for tutorials go to the wiki and not the forums.
I didn't fully review the tutorial, but it seems like some nice work.

As you know, the x86 processor boots into a 16 bit envirement. What is this mode? (Hint: Its not Real Mode) ... Okay, it is
What is so real abut real mode, anyway? Real Mode...

not really... technically (i know, it doesnt really make much difference, but...) it is the BIOS that switches into RMode, not the CPU -- the CPU does start in 16bit mode, but its UMode, not RMode (unreal mode being a "mutation" between RMode and PMode) -- well i guess 88/86/286 do start in actual RMode, but 386 and beyond actually start up in UMode (which was not a 'bug later supported for compatibility' as many people claim, but rather an intentional side-affect of how PMode works, and actually used in the boot process), the BIOS then first switches to PMode to do most of its work, then returns to RMode before jumping to the bootsector

reference: 3A:9.1.4

Hi,

JAAman wrote:

As you know, the x86 processor boots into a 16 bit envirement. What is this mode? (Hint: Its not Real Mode) ... Okay, it is
What is so real abut real mode, anyway? Real Mode...

not really... technically (i know, it doesnt really make much difference, but...) it is the BIOS that switches into RMode, not the CPU -- the CPU does start in 16bit mode, but its UMode, not RMode (unreal mode being a "mutation" between RMode and PMode) -- well i guess 88/86/286 do start in actual RMode, but 386 and beyond actually start up in UMode (which was not a 'bug later supported for compatibility' as many people claim, but rather an intentional side-affect of how PMode works, and actually used in the boot process), the BIOS then first switches to PMode to do most of its work, then returns to RMode before jumping to the bootsector

Technically, unreal mode is real mode with modified data segment limits, and the startup state for modern 80x86 CPUs is real mode with a modified code segment base (but the same 64 KiB limits for all segments) - they aren't quite the same...


Cheers,

Brendan

Im confused...This looks like a copy+paste from the text in one of my tutorials...

(In fact, both of your posts contain it. Please remember that it is copyrighted work. I am fine if some of the text is wikified though. I am unable to check your website atm)

Hi,

neon wrote:Im confused...This looks like a copy+paste from the text in one of my tutorials...

You're right - it's a direct copy from this web page, complete with the same spelling mistakes ("envirement").

neon wrote:(In fact, both of your posts contain it. Please remember that it is copyrighted work. I am fine if some of the text is wikified though. I am unable to check your website atm)

Copyright law typically allows for a certain amount of the original work to be quoted and/or used for reference - see "Copyrights: fair use" in Wikipedia.


Cheers,

Brendan

Hi,

Just a quick update - the original poster cut & pasted "part II" (which I deleted), and the only reason I can think of for doing this (either accidentally or deliberately) is to get people to click on the link in the original poster's signature. I've banned the original poster (until they can explain their actions)....


Cheers,

Brendan

Brendan wrote:Copyright law typically allows for a certain amount of the original work to be quoted and/or used for reference - see "Copyrights: fair use" in Wikipedia.

I am fine with that I actually kind of encourage it a little. I dont like anyone taking the series and claiming it as their own, however.

I was informed that the entire series was copied+pasted to the site (here) which (from my understanding) breaks copyright law. I emailed the site owners requesting for the content to be removed within 24 hours.

Hi,

neon wrote:

Brendan wrote:Copyright law typically allows for a certain amount of the original work to be quoted and/or used for reference - see "Copyrights: fair use" in Wikipedia.

I am fine with that I actually kind of encourage it a little. I dont like anyone taking the series and claiming it as their own, however.

IMHO, even "fair use" should be accompanied by "fair attribution"....

neon wrote:I was informed that the entire series was copied+pasted to the site (here) which (from my understanding) breaks copyright law. I emailed the site owners requesting for the content to be removed within 24 hours.

Doh. That web site is the same website as the one in the original poster's signature. I wouldn't be surprised if "angeln123" is the person who's violated your copyright in both cases, which makes me wonder if "angeln123" has posted it anywhere else...


Cheers,

Brendan

Hi,

angeln123's site wrote:（Author：angeln123）

That's a bit low! It's not just Neon's tutorials, there are loads of other tutorials (driver / embedded development...) that are suffixed with the same note. I just tried posting a nice comment to this effect, but unfortunately the captcha doesn't seem to work.

Good luck getting it removed, Neon.

Cheers,
Adam

AJ wrote:Hi,

angeln123's site wrote:（Author：angeln123）

That's a bit low! It's not just Neon's tutorials, there are loads of other tutorials (driver / embedded development...) that are suffixed with the same note.

Hm... Perhaps I should just contact his web hosting company do to him using his website for illegal activities (which breaks my sites Terms of Use, and I am sure many others...) as well as copyright law.

AJ wrote:Good luck getting it removed, Neon.

Thanks Any suggestions on getting this guy's site taken down would be great

*edit: Yey! Theres a link to the Wiki from the forums now.

DDoS? [/joke]

neon wrote:

AJ wrote: Thanks Any suggestions on getting this guy's site taken down would be great

*edit: Yey! Theres a link to the Wiki from the forums now.

It was with a hugely selfish sigh of relief that I read his site and noticed that he hadn't ripped off my tutorials too. To be honest, noone's going to read them on that site - he's *literally* copy-pasted - no formatting or anything. Ridiculous.

And the forum template update was by me, due to popular demand.

AJ wrote:DDoS? [/nojoke]

Fixed!

Okay...still no response from my two warnings to the OP sent through email to take down the content. I contacted the sites registrar to see if they can do anything to either have the illegal content removed, or site taken down do to illegal activity.

Lets hope it doesn't get further then this. I rather the site taken down as I am betting most of the content on the site, if not all, breaks copyright.

Thanks for the support