Page 1 of 1
Multitasking Headache
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 12:40 am
by System123
Hi
I have been battling for about 6weeks now just trying to get my multitasking working. I tried James M's way but I had difficulty implementing it in Pascal, due to the way I set up Paging. So I came up with my own way of going about it. The problem now is that my system switches between my 3 tasks once each. Then it triple faults because some how the Eip gets pointed to the start of memory.
The way I have multitasking set up is using my TRegisters data type and then using my timer function to set the values on the stack. What I think is happening is that the tasks are overwriting each other on the stack, so I set up separate stacks for each task. The problem is that if I set the ESP to the new stack pointer in Pascal, the old value returns when the leave function is called. So my new stack never gets set.
Am I missing something? Has anyone performed multitasking in Pascal?
Re: Multitasking Headache
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 1:27 am
by Brendan
Hi,
System123 wrote:The problem is that if I set the ESP to the new stack pointer in Pascal, the old value returns when the leave function is called. So my new stack never gets set.
That shouldn't happen. When you spawn a new task, the new task starts executing new code that never returns (this code would kill the task instead of attempting to return to a caller that never existed).
For example (in assembly because I don't know Pascal):
Code: Select all
mov eax,SPAWN_TASK ;Kernel API function number
mov ebx,myTask ;Address to use for the new task's EIP
mov ecx,myStack ;Address to use for the new task's ESP
CALL_KERNEL_API ;Macro to access the kernel API
Code: Select all
myTask:
<do something here>
mov eax,TERMINATE_TASK ;Kernel API function number
CALL_KERNEL_API ;Macro to access the kernel API
<any code here won't be executed because the task will be terminated>
Cheers,
Brendan
Re: Multitasking Headache
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 5:49 am
by Craze Frog
Has anyone performed multitasking in Pascal?
Yes, but I couldn't make head nor tails of James M's multitasking tutorial. I simply set up the stack appropriately and iret to do the task switch.
Re: Multitasking Headache
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 5:55 am
by jal
System123 wrote:Am I missing something? Has anyone performed multitasking in Pascal?
You have been asking the very same questions in
this thread, and you have been answered there already (especially about Pascal restoring the ESP). Now you act as if you didn't even read that thread. Please explain why you didn't reply to that thread if you didn't understand, and bother us again with the same old questions.
What I think is happening is that the tasks are overwriting each other on the stack, so I set up separate stacks for each task.
If you did not even understand right away why each process needs its own stack, I can see why you have been 'battling' for six weeks - you just don't have a clue. Why don't you go back to the basics before trying to write something that works???
JAL
Re: Multitasking Headache
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 11:01 pm
by System123
jal wrote:If you did not even understand right away why each process needs its own stack, I can see why you have been 'battling' for six weeks - you just don't have a clue. Why don't you go back to the basics before trying to write something that works???
I got confused when going through the tutorial. Technically though the simplified multitasking I am writing it shouldn't make a difference if the tasks overwrite each others stacks as nothing will be pushed to the stack by my tasks. And my main kernel task had its own stack. James M's tutorial lost me as I had initiated my paging differently to him. And this made it confusing when trying to clone directories. I would rather battle for 6weeks than just take another persons code and copy paste it. So far I have written most of my Kernel with limited problems. As a noob I don't think I have been half as bad as certain other people who have been on here. Atleast I make use of the wiki and google before I post!
@Brendan: Thanks again for the response. I have located my problem now, It was that I hadn't put precautions in place in case the task tried to return.
Re: Multitasking Headache
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 5:25 am
by jal
System123 wrote:Technically though, the simplified multitasking I am writing it shouldn't make a difference if the tasks overwrite each others stacks as nothing will be pushed to the stack by my tasks.
I understand you are writing everything in Pascal, so you have no way of controlling the stack use by procedures (unless perhaps there are some keywords/parameters to control it).
I would rather battle for 6weeks than just take another persons code and copy paste it.
That, at least, is commendable.
As a noob I don't think I have been half as bad as certain other people who have been on here. Atleast I make use of the wiki and google before I post!
That is commendable too :). However, sometimes it is better to take a step back, and try to completely understand what you are trying to achieve, then try to program it into a working prototype. It seems you are in a 6-week try-and-error loop, seeing only the grass instead of the field...
JAL