Troy Martin wrote:
Going in here for 01000101's defense.
I guess he is able to defend himself.
That's because it's closed source, and he's been telling us that it has no interface whatsoever!
Well, I did say that I assume his is true.
However can I also have the right to express some doubts after such a long series of "talks" about a "ghost" OS and getting rich and lawyers and his investors?.
Esp when other people that make such claims with no screen shots or binary to test are kind of ignored here or openly challenged (and with good reasons).
Your device works as a hobbyist OS for a large-scale server or gateway? Nifty, post some screenshots.
Here you have your screenshots:
http://www.oby.ro/files/PC130007_b.JPG
http://www.oby.ro/files/PC130009.JPG
The first one is programmable by a hobbyist in many ways.
The second one is the one with 4 Ethernet ports firewall and P2P network filtering and can be programmed in C eventually and it does have a lot of interfaces including command line and http and telnet.
They do rest on my new glass tables
I have others but I guess you can find some your self in the network admin area of your company or at the company where you work.
Most people can buy those for a nice little sum of cash. Next.
That is exactly my point.
Most people will buy those and will not buy his OS. Mainly because his hardware will cost more and perform less for the same money.
I do not challenge the making of his OS as a hobby. I challenge the "getting rich and famous" part and the economical validity of his approach.
I do it not to "arrogantly BS" him but as an kind advice in order to spare him and his investors a lot of loss in money. It might not be late to change his targets with the very same OS code he has done until now and find a better business model.
TLDR.
Interesting term.
But they're not actively developed by a single, solitary hobbyist.
That is not a good selling point. Not to a corporation or a big company. Or even to a small company. They do not like to do business with or to be dependent on a single person with limited development caps and assets
Who will run the customer answering lines?
Didn't read the rest but here's a quick summary: Mr. E's OS runs on standard hardware, so you can turn an old laptop or 1990's server into a better network box.
I know that. But do you really think that a corporation or a company still has an "older PC" availble to turn into a new thing and they want to risk using it?
Then you are dreaming and do not know how things work inside a company or a large corporation. They will prefer buying some new hardware device 99 out of 100 times.
I'd prefer to pay for that, knowing that 01000101 wrote it and I could fix the hardware when I needed to, than shelling out the cash for a proprietary box I know nothing about.
Nice to hear that you want to buy it. But surely his business model doe not base of selling to a single person? The cost would be huge in this case.
How can you fix an old box? Do you still have ATA IDE arround in SATA times? do you still have a PS/2 mouse? a PS/2 keyboard? a floppy disk unit? For the next 5 years?
And a proprietary brand name box does come with a warranty.
I doubt the old PC box still has a warranty and a company cares for this. The warranty can get it switched with a new one in no time if the hardware breaks.
But you know what? Those embedded stuff rarely break. They simple become obsolete...and at the cost of 10-100 euros... you can buy a new one any time you need one...with a new warranty.
And I thought he intends to build his own hardware. Why did he add x64 features to his OS then? he expects an old PC to have x64 and multiple CPU's ?
Anyway big company are very reluctant on buying new software unless it is Windows, or Office or Visual studio or Photoshop/Autocad or antivirus/firewall or custom accounting (SCALA) coming from a big well known and proven company.
If they have an "old" x64 PC then they will eventually use Linux/Open BSD on it.
TLDR version: I call the post I'm quoting arrogant BS.
Thanks for explaining the term.
I was just stating the truth as I know it as somebody that has worked in and with corporations and big companies and I own my own company and I know the politics for new acquisitions.
It might look like logical to you to use old hardware plus a hobby OS but a company wants new hardware and to work with another big established company that has the caps to service them rapidly all over the world and replace or fix things fast and they need a warranty as mandatory politics esp for a critical sub system as the network security.
My advice might look like arrogant to you. In this case please excuse.