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Matrix
Posted: Fri May 16, 2003 11:00 pm
by Adek336
I wonder what memory model did they have at matrix: segmented, paging, or both?
RE:Matrix
Posted: Sat May 17, 2003 11:00 pm
by Khumba
LOL. Good question. Probably segmented. Sections of the matrix chopped up into blocks? It seems like they have entire cities of memory so I doubt they would need paging.
RE:Matrix
Posted: Sat May 17, 2003 11:00 pm
by Adek336
Segmented memory might make it hard to control access to it; no virtual memory! Anyways, they could run it over a hardware JVM. I wonder if they had journalising
RE:Matrix
Posted: Tue May 20, 2003 11:00 pm
by krillzip
It's so stupid that Neo has to fight Agent Smith. The agent that multiply himself. What the guy does is nothing but starting a new thread of himself in his memory segment. Why doesn't Neo just kill the main-thread-agent and the Matrix will clean up the rest of the agent-threads.
And if Agent Smith does everything of his own, his AI will take a lot CPU-time, and when there are 40 Agent Smiths the Matrix should actually lag alot.
What Neo should do to beat the Matrix is to gain root control.
RE:Matrix
Posted: Tue May 20, 2003 11:00 pm
by mindvnas
but there are many people in the Matrix. 40 agents more or les doesnt count.
why does not Neo kill the Architect? then he could gain root access and terminat the Matrix.
RE:Matrix
Posted: Tue May 20, 2003 11:00 pm
by krillzip
Agent Smith launches several threads of himself, maybe could be good. In my oppinion the Smiths should start to lag, fight slower etcetra.
RE:Matrix
Posted: Tue May 20, 2003 11:00 pm
by VoidLogic
Maybe it would make your computer lag, but the machines that run the matrix are spending all there improving themselves. I mean there is no way to guess what kind of hardware is behind that. For all we know its 10 million 50 terahertz processes that have tearabyte size data path ways and a 50 terabyte size cahce.
Any way the matrix as at least 6 billion poeple, why would a few more smiths matter?
-VoidLogic
RE:Matrix
Posted: Tue May 20, 2003 11:00 pm
by Adek336
"I mean there is no way to guess what kind of hardware is behind that"
LOL that makes writing viruses much harder! Apparently one'd have to look a lot in the net for references.
anyways matrix isn't very popular; like the PCs are in several millions, and matrix - only one computer fabricated.
Adrian
RE:Matrix
Posted: Tue May 20, 2003 11:00 pm
by mikeleany
50 THz? Is that all? We'll be there in around 25 years. It's got to be at least in the Exa-Hertz range. There's no way 10 million 50 THz processors could simulate the entire world.
RE:Matrix
Posted: Tue May 20, 2003 11:00 pm
by VoidLogic
Ironicly, thats the point i'm trying to make, its stupid to compare the supercomputers of a race of machines to our current technology.
By the way, the Matrix is not real, sorry kiddes.
-VoidLogic
RE:Matrix
Posted: Tue May 20, 2003 11:00 pm
by Manip
It is real, my mum said so!
Seriously imagine how much processing power it would take just to simulate every little thing in the road you live down. You spend more processing stupid little things than generating the life forms.
RE:Matrix
Posted: Wed May 21, 2003 11:00 pm
by garf
The Matrix is a massive Beowulf cluster using a cluster of 6 billion biological processors (people) and a smaller number of silicon processors to persist data and direct I/O. Data storage is located "on die" with each of the biological processors and uses an associative recall mechanism. A small set of inputs lead to larger amounts of data based on the associations between the data sets and the inputs. (That is why you think of Grandma's house when you smell freshly baked cookies.)
It is actually a very efficient system since each of the biological processors handle all of the "world" processing duties and only have to process data local to them. The links between the biological processor's address spaces are controlled and managed by the silicon.
Agents are simply bits of code that move from one memory space to the other temporarily taking over the I/O. Agent Smith has the added advantage of being able to leave a copy of himself behind when he moves to a new address space.
At least that is how I would build it
(I am actually really scared that I have given this that much time and thought. I think I my need therapy now.)
RE:Matrix
Posted: Thu May 22, 2003 11:00 pm
by Heliocentric
You do need therapy (or a girl
And if the Matrix was REAL what would be the easiest way to convince people it wasn't? Of course, make a movie about it so if you did think it was real, people would think you insane.
so I leave you with something interesting:
people say a watch pot never boils; No one ever realizes that it applies to everyone, not just to you. What does this have to do with the matrix?: Lag..Its faster when you don't have to keep rendering it
RE:Matrix
Posted: Fri May 23, 2003 11:00 pm
by mikeleany
Hmm... Maybe you need therapy too...
RE:Matrix
Posted: Fri May 23, 2003 11:00 pm
by Heliocentric
Why? I make a good point...