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Re:Which OS to use to design an OS
Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 8:05 am
by aladdin
Curufir wrote:
Don't assume this. There are a number of Linux distros that don't come with the GNU toolchain installed. Most do, but it's just something to check after you unwrap that penguin shaped package this Christmas.
hmmm, not sure, coz to call a linux "linux" it must have some directories structures and tools, some of these tools are a C compiler and an assembler, each distro must have a compiler and an assembler, otherwise it is not a linux distro.
Re:Which OS to use to design an OS
Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 11:04 am
by Curufir
aladdin wrote:
hmmm, not sure, coz to call a linux "linux" it must have some directories structures and tools, some of these tools are a C compiler and an assembler, each distro must have a compiler and an assembler, otherwise it is not a linux distro.
Nope. Presumably you're thinking of the FHS (filesystem layout) and LSB (Libraries/binary compatibility) standards. There is no standard dictating what compiler a distro must/must not contain.
Debian installed with the desktop task doesn't come with the gnu toolchain. Installing it from the repository is just 2 commands though.
Suse 9.1 ftp install doesn't come with the toolchain. Once again you have to install via a package manager.
Those are distros I have first-hand knowledge of from the past few months, I'm sure there are others that leave the toolchain out of the base install.
The vast majority will have packages available for GCC etc, so it's not a huge problem (Would be a weird distro that didn't).
However if you don't have a net connection on your dev computer then checking the contents of a distro before installing it is very worthwhile.
Re:Which OS to use to design an OS
Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 12:35 pm
by keeper
aladdin wrote:
hmmm, not sure, coz to call a linux "linux" it must have some directories structures and tools, some of these tools are a C compiler and an assembler, each distro must have a compiler and an assembler, otherwise it is not a linux distro.
good point aladdin....
Re:Which OS to use to design an OS
Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 10:52 pm
by zloba
2 beyond infinity:
@curufir: to my knowledge, the ALSA sound stuff is not developed anymore, so I'd switch to something else. (Have read some article on OSNEWS) OSS or jack might be good alternatives.
to my knowledge, it's the other way around - OSS is obsolete.
-OSS modules are marked 'deprecated' in 2.6 kernel config
-also
this article on osnews.
Re:Which OS to use to design an OS
Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 2:17 am
by keeper
I think jack and oss are pretty good. they boath workfine for me.