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Re: How to make bootloader for USB flash memory ?
Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 9:14 am
by Octocontrabass
Pem3 wrote:Octocontrabass wrote:The first bootloader (MBR) reads the partition table to find the partition where you've put the second bootloader (VBR; your code).
Ok, clear now. And how about bytes -> code. Is there available asembler code of these bytes (1st bootloader) ? Dunno how to find it by keywords in google, which keywords to use.
If you use Microsoft's MBR, look for "Windows MBR disassembly".
Pem3 wrote:Still don't understand what do you mean by fat32 code
90-509; boot code
That part.
Pem3 wrote:Because it's not working. I pasted my code from 90 byte (0x5a) and same result - message "reebot and select proper boot device"
Hmm, does your computer run Windows 8? You must disable Secure Boot.
Can you show us sector 0 from your flash drive?
Re: How to make bootloader for USB flash memory ?
Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 9:41 am
by Combuster
Virtualbox (and whatever other emulator) also runs on a PC, which makes matters confusing. If you want the contrast, use something like "actual hardware" or "real machine".
My virtualbox (typing from it!) also has the integrated option to use any USB device directly without any need of additional software, interestingly providing a contradiction to your earlier notion (which probably means you're doing something wrong).
Re: How to make bootloader for USB flash memory ?
Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 1:07 pm
by Pem3
Octocontrabass wrote:Pem3 wrote:Octocontrabass wrote:The first bootloader (MBR) reads the partition table to find the partition where you've put the second bootloader (VBR; your code).
Ok, clear now. And how about bytes -> code. Is there available asembler code of these bytes (1st bootloader) ? Dunno how to find it by keywords in google, which keywords to use.
If you use Microsoft's MBR, look for "Windows MBR disassembly".
Pem3 wrote:Still don't understand what do you mean by fat32 code
90-509; boot code
That part.
Pem3 wrote:Because it's not working. I pasted my code from 90 byte (0x5a) and same result - message "reebot and select proper boot device"
Hmm, does your computer run Windows 8? You must disable Secure Boot.
Can you show us sector 0 from your flash drive?
Nope, I use Windows 7. What is secure boot ? Why to disable it for ?
I will give you all i have atm and on what i am testing.
I have prepared usb flash with such commands:
Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
C:\Users\Admin>diskpart
Microsoft DiskPart version 6.1.7601
Copyright (C) 1999-2008 Microsoft Corporation.
On computer: ADMIN-PC
DISKPART> list disk
Disk ### Status Size Free Dyn Gpt
-------- ------------- ------- ------- --- ---
Disk 0 Online 79 GB 0 B
Disk 1 Online 951 MB 0 B
DISKPART> select disk 1
Disk 1 is now the selected disk.
DISKPART> clean
DiskPart succeeded in cleaning the disk.
DISKPART> create partition primary
DiskPart succeeded in creating the specified partition.
DISKPART> select partition 1
Partition 1 is now the selected partition.
DISKPART> active
DiskPart marked the current partition as active.
DISKPART> format FS=FAT32
100 percent completed
DiskPart successfully formatted the volume.
DISKPART> assign
DiskPart successfully assigned the drive letter or mount point.
DISKPART>
After that i have compiled my simple bootloader code:
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org 0
jmp btcode
nop
times 87 db 0ffh
btcode:
mov si, message+7C00h
writestr:
mov byte al, [si]
cmp al, 0h
je jobDone
mov ah, 0eh
mov bx, 07h
int 10h
inc si
jmp writestr
jobDone:
message db 'Bootloader is working', 00h
times 510-($-$$) db 0
dw 0xAA55
After compilation process i get such binary code:
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EB 58 90 FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF BE 6D 7C 8A 04 3C 00 74 0A B4 0E BB 07 00 CD 10 46 EB F0 42 6F 6F 74 6C 6F 61 64 65 72 20 69 73 20 77 6F 72 6B 69 6E 67 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 55 AA
After that (now) i am pasting you current state of 2 bootloaders:
1st:
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
2nd:
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
Now i modify 2nd bootloader by copying bytes from my bootloader (starting from 5ah / byte number 90) and that's how it look like:
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EB 58 90 4D 53 44 4F 53 35 2E 30 00 08 04 26 06 02 00 00 00 00 F8 00 00 3F 00 FF 00 40 00 00 00 40 6E 07 00 ED 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 02 00 00 00 01 00 06 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 80 00 29 D7 BD 75 7C 4E 4F 20 4E 41 4D 45 20 20 20 20 46 41 54 33 32 20 20 20 BE 6D 7C 8A 04 3C 00 74 0A B4 0E BB 07 00 CD 10 46 EB F0 42 6F 6F 74 6C 6F 61 64 65 72 20 69 73 20 77 6F 72 6B 69 6E 67 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 55 AA
Where is mistake ?
Re: How to make bootloader for USB flash memory ?
Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 1:24 pm
by DavidCooper
Are you sure you're writing your code to the right place on the disk? A common mistake people make when they're new to HxD is to open the disk as a logical disk (i.e. a partition) rather than a physical disk (the whole disk), then they write their code to the first sector of the partition instead of to the first sector of the disk. It seems unlikely that you have made this mistake as you identified something that appeared to be a partition table entry in the right place, but it's worth double checking this just in case it only looked like a partition table by chance.
If this turns out to be the problem, don't lose the partition table data - you'll probably want to keep that partition exactly as it is. Copy the entire sector so that you can restore it easily.
Re: How to make bootloader for USB flash memory ?
Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 3:26 pm
by Pem3
DavidCooper wrote:Are you sure you're writing your code to the right place on the disk? A common mistake people make when they're new to HxD is to open the disk as a logical disk (i.e. a partition) rather than a physical disk (the whole disk), then they write their code to the first sector of the partition instead of to the first sector of the disk. It seems unlikely that you have made this mistake as you identified something that appeared to be a partition table entry in the right place, but it's worth double checking this just in case it only looked like a partition table by chance.
wrong
If this turns out to be the problem, don't lose the partition table data - you'll probably want to keep that partition exactly as it is. Copy the entire sector so that you can restore it easily.
Well I have written my code to 1st sector of partition (opened as logical in HxD, 2nd bootloader - right ?). Is it wrong ? As I have understood by what you have written above, then it's totally wrong, hmm ? Dunno what to think about it now. Am I wrong or you ?
Re: How to make bootloader for USB flash memory ?
Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 3:50 pm
by DavidCooper
Pem3 wrote:Well I have written my code to 1st sector of partition (opened as logical in HxD, 2nd bootloader - right ?). Is it wrong ? As I have understood by what you have written above, then it's totally wrong, hmm ? Dunno what to think about it now. Am I wrong or you ?
If you read what I said more carefully, you'll notice that I told you that the
logical drive is the partition. If you want your code to run, you can indeed put it there, but you'll then need to make sure you have a proper MBR in the first sector (sector zero) of the physical drive containing code capable of finding the partition and booting your VBR. The partition table entry also needs to indicate that the partition contains a bootable VBR, so the first byte of that table entry needs to be set to 80h. The MBR code will then load in the VBR and hand control over to it, assuming the MBR contains valid code - it may well not do this though, because typically the first sector on a flash drive is empty apart from the partition table and contains no code capable of booting a VBR.
If there is no MBR code, you can put your bootloader in the MBR for now instead and see if it boots up. It should do, because if the BIOS is set up to boot from USB, all it will care about is that the boot sig is there and if so it will run your code. If you have more than one USB port though, it may be that only one of them will work for this.
[Edit: corrected bit in bold - I wrote "logical sector" instead of "logical drive" at the first attempt.]
Edit 2: I notice now that you know you've put it at the start of a partition, but it won't boot from there without a proper MBR at sector 0 of the physical drive with MBR code in it and a partition table entry set to label the partition as bootable. That's what you need to fix, but if you want to test quickly whether you can get your machine to boot from USB at all, you can try using your bootloader code in place of MBR code (sector 0 of the physical drive) and it ought to boot up and display your message.
Re: How to make bootloader for USB flash memory ?
Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 8:01 pm
by Octocontrabass
You did not set CS or DS, so addresses in your code are wrong. Do something like this:
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btcode:
jmp 7c0h:btcode2 ; set cs to 07C0h
btcode2:
mov ax, 7c0h
mov ds, ax ; set ds to 07C0h
mov si, message ; don't need to add 7C00h anymore
(If you use ".org 0", you should set cs and ds to 7c0h. If you use ".org 7c00h", you should set cs and ds to 0.)
You also do not halt at the end of your code, so CPU continues executing until it crashes. Halt the CPU in an infinite loop:
Try again with these changes.
Re: How to make bootloader for USB flash memory ?
Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 12:36 am
by mrstobbe
Pem3 wrote:I don't understand you. Shall I understand your answer as laughing of my person or what ? Have I written something funny or wrong ? I know that my question in this topic is funny as for person who was able to write in assembler a little advanced software like boot-loader and kernel, but so far I haven't worked directly with system files and so far I didn't know how is it working, yea have fun of that. I really don't understand your attitude.
Well I didn't understand you. I mistakenly believed you where using the term PC as a synonym for windows (PC and VirtualBox, or Windows and VirtualBox, meaning VirtualBox on Windows), so I apologize
Re: How to make bootloader for USB flash memory ?
Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 6:14 am
by Pem3
Problem seems to be solved. I changed USB device. My previous usb device was old mp3 device with USB 1.0 or 1.1, it was probably reason (but why ?) of not working (default file system for this usb was fat12 or fat16, dunno, it was discovered such by windows format manager).
Really dunno what was wrong before. I did same steps with new device and all is clear now (working fine). Working fine both in real machine and virtual box one.
Thank you guys for supporting me, it was very precious, thank you.
@ mrstobbe: Peace my friend
@Octocontrabass: Yea, you are right. I have noticed it just after bootloader became discoverable. It's fine now. Thank you.